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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8213560" data-attributes="member: 6788736">Im talking about the rules, as interpreted though logicNo, there is no overlap.You cant hide in dim light alone without the DM ruling the observer is 'distracted' or you have some special ability to do so. That's RAW and is accepted by [USER=6777378]@Iry[/USER]Any attempt you make to Hide in such circumstances fails because your opponent can see you.That being the case, and the creature is NOT distracted, and you lack any special ability enabling you to hide in low light, explain to me how you can be hidden in low light when you cant hide there in the first place due to being seen?Remember 'creatures are assumed to be aware of their surroundings, and if you come out of somewhere you can hide (and are hidden) and approach a creature, it sees you (unless the DM rules it is looking the other way).'And if those Elves existed, they could do it because they have an exception to the rule that lets them remain hidden.As it stands there is no such 'remain hidden' vs 'hiding' distinction in the game, because the game uses plain English, and follows standard logic that if you cant Hide inn a particular set of circumstances, you cant remain hidden there either (because you couldn't hide in the first place).It's like swimming in solid stone. The game doesnt need to detail what happens when you swim in solid stone, because you cant swim in solid stone, unless you have some kind of specific rule that lets you.</blockquote>

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