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Cloak of Elvenkind - Advantage to Stealth AND -5 to passive perception?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8214261" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Im talking about the rule that states when a creature leaves somewhere they can and are hidden in (darkness for example, or total cover) and enter somewhere they cannot hide (bright light, or dim light without the skulker feat) and approach a creature, <strong>that creature automatically notices the other creature</strong> UNLESS the DM rules the observer is not looking at the creature, by virtue of some distraction.</p><p></p><p>Again (for the seventh time now) - [USER=6777378]@Iry[/USER] posits that a creature (lacking Skulker but already hidden in darkness further away) does not automatically reveal themselves when entering a dimly lit hallway (a hallway a second creature <strong>that is not distracted and</strong> <strong>is intently staring down</strong>), with the first creature being able to walk down that hallway <strong>under direct observation</strong>, and touch the second creature on the nose, unless the second creature makes a Perception check.</p><p></p><p>Barring some special rule such a thing is (RAW) impossible. The RAW states that when you come out of hiding and approach a creature it sees you, unless (DMs call) it is 'distracted', which the second creature, is not.</p><p></p><p>The creature looking down the hallway instantly notices a man shaped form emerging from the darkness, and into the dimly lit hallway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah but 'this is how it works at my table/ under my rulings' isnt really relevant to a discussion on how it's intended to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8214261, member: 6788736"] Im talking about the rule that states when a creature leaves somewhere they can and are hidden in (darkness for example, or total cover) and enter somewhere they cannot hide (bright light, or dim light without the skulker feat) and approach a creature, [B]that creature automatically notices the other creature[/B] UNLESS the DM rules the observer is not looking at the creature, by virtue of some distraction. Again (for the seventh time now) - [USER=6777378]@Iry[/USER] posits that a creature (lacking Skulker but already hidden in darkness further away) does not automatically reveal themselves when entering a dimly lit hallway (a hallway a second creature [B]that is not distracted and[/B] [B]is intently staring down[/B]), with the first creature being able to walk down that hallway [B]under direct observation[/B], and touch the second creature on the nose, unless the second creature makes a Perception check. Barring some special rule such a thing is (RAW) impossible. The RAW states that when you come out of hiding and approach a creature it sees you, unless (DMs call) it is 'distracted', which the second creature, is not. The creature looking down the hallway instantly notices a man shaped form emerging from the darkness, and into the dimly lit hallway. Yeah but 'this is how it works at my table/ under my rulings' isnt really relevant to a discussion on how it's intended to work. [/QUOTE]
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