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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tafkamhokie" data-source="post: 4287716" data-attributes="member: 62064">This may be 3e thinking as I have not thoroughly read the 4e books yet.  But I know in 3e, there was the caveat that when you attacked while invisible, the defender knows what square the attack came from.  Granted, you are free to move after you attack, but the defender is also free to ready an action to attack you when you attack them...before you get to move.Don't know if the same rules exist in 4e, but they certainly make intuitive sense.With Orcus' attacks being as devastating as they are, I would think he would only have to ready an attack a couple of times before he tagged the stealth ranger and either killed him outright or negated the invisibility.</blockquote>