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Cloak of Invisibility: Best item in the game?
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<blockquote data-quote="drquestion" data-source="post: 4287982" data-attributes="member: 5810"><p>Like Morrus, I don't really see the problem with this.</p><p></p><p>All the analysis really says is that a character who essentially has the highest possible stealth score, plus a cloak of invisibility, is likely to be completely undetected in the encounter that he uses the cloak. That's fine, he's a 30th level demigod who's maxed his stealth. He <em>should</em> be almost impossible to find.</p><p></p><p>Contrary to the analysis, Invisi-ranger won't actually be able to solo any of the high-level solo monsters in any realistic in-game situation.</p><p></p><p>Orcus, as long as he's in a room that's 200x200 or smaller, or can move into one quickly (and really, what's he gonna be doing wandering outside alone?), will kill the ranger, who only has 170 hp, well before the 25 rounds are up just with his aura, which has a range of 20 squares and does 10 damage per round, 20 if he's bloodied. </p><p></p><p>Looking at the two 30th-level solos, the red dragon, if he can't pin down the ranger, can just fly away, and the tarrasque, as the OP mentions, is pretty likely to eventually find the ranger with his blindsight, and then trample him, which ends the invisibility.</p><p></p><p>In sum, it's clearly a really good item, and probably a no-brainer for an epic level stealth character, but I don't see it being game-breaking in practice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drquestion, post: 4287982, member: 5810"] Like Morrus, I don't really see the problem with this. All the analysis really says is that a character who essentially has the highest possible stealth score, plus a cloak of invisibility, is likely to be completely undetected in the encounter that he uses the cloak. That's fine, he's a 30th level demigod who's maxed his stealth. He [i]should[/i] be almost impossible to find. Contrary to the analysis, Invisi-ranger won't actually be able to solo any of the high-level solo monsters in any realistic in-game situation. Orcus, as long as he's in a room that's 200x200 or smaller, or can move into one quickly (and really, what's he gonna be doing wandering outside alone?), will kill the ranger, who only has 170 hp, well before the 25 rounds are up just with his aura, which has a range of 20 squares and does 10 damage per round, 20 if he's bloodied. Looking at the two 30th-level solos, the red dragon, if he can't pin down the ranger, can just fly away, and the tarrasque, as the OP mentions, is pretty likely to eventually find the ranger with his blindsight, and then trample him, which ends the invisibility. In sum, it's clearly a really good item, and probably a no-brainer for an epic level stealth character, but I don't see it being game-breaking in practice. [/QUOTE]
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