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<blockquote data-quote="Zurai" data-source="post: 4292461" data-attributes="member: 52324">Wizards, Warlords, and Warlocks I'll give you. They have a use for Intelligence. No one else is going to dump Dex when they could dump Int instead. Dex is unquestionably a better stat than Int. It does everything Int does AND adds to Initiative (except for skills, where it doesn't really matter if you're deciding which to dump - it's going to be a difference of +1 at most). You'll see far, far more stupid characters than clumsy ones.What &quot;other stealth related feats&quot;? The only one is Secret Stride. What Ranger stealth/mobility powers? Invisi-Ranger doesn't use any of them. He doesn't need to, thanks to the Cloak.I already showed the math without Divine Regeneration. I-R has over 400 effective hit points and orcus only deals about 320 before he keels over if he's in range of I-R every single round of the fight.A skill choice, two feats out of nineteen (neither of which is strictly necessary), and one magic item out of 11 (which also provides a bonus to Athletics, btw).For the ability to be unkillable for one encounter per day, that's pretty cheap.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zurai, post: 4292461, member: 52324"] Wizards, Warlords, and Warlocks I'll give you. They have a use for Intelligence. No one else is going to dump Dex when they could dump Int instead. Dex is unquestionably a better stat than Int. It does everything Int does AND adds to Initiative (except for skills, where it doesn't really matter if you're deciding which to dump - it's going to be a difference of +1 at most). You'll see far, far more stupid characters than clumsy ones. What "other stealth related feats"? The only one is Secret Stride. What Ranger stealth/mobility powers? Invisi-Ranger doesn't use any of them. He doesn't need to, thanks to the Cloak. I already showed the math without Divine Regeneration. I-R has over 400 effective hit points and orcus only deals about 320 before he keels over if he's in range of I-R every single round of the fight. A skill choice, two feats out of nineteen (neither of which is strictly necessary), and one magic item out of 11 (which also provides a bonus to Athletics, btw). For the ability to be unkillable for one encounter per day, that's pretty cheap. [/QUOTE]

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