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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VanRichten" data-source="post: 4177668" data-attributes="member: 63745">Look at the following (Note this is just using the Core DMG):CloakContinuous +4 Armor BonusNo Armor Check PenaltyNo Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal AttacksVirtually No WeightNo Maximum Dexterity BonusNow compare that to a +3 Ghost Touch Leather Armor 16150+ gp:Chest Slot+4 Armor BonusLittle to No Armor Check Penalty5% Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal Attacks5lb Weight+8 Maximum Dexterity BonusFunctionally these are the same.  However if you look at the details you have to say the cloak is by far a better deal.  So in your opinion is the cloak valid in cost?Now if you include the shield effect that was mentioned then it looks like this:Cloak, 4500gpCloak SlotContinuous +4 Armor Bonus, Continuous +4 Shield BonusImmunity to Magic MisslesNo Armor Check PenaltyNo Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal AttacksVirtually No WeightNo Maximum Dexterity BonusNow compare that to the above armor but including a shield because armor does not give a shield bonus:+3 Ghost Touch Leather Armor and +3 Ghost Touch Buckler, 32300+ gpArmor Slot and Shield SlotContinous +4 Armor Bonus, Continous +4 Shield BonusLittle to No Armor Check Penalty10% Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal Attacks10lb Weight+8 Maximum Dexterity BonusDo you still think this is balanced?Now for those who argue the Bracers of Armor look at this:Bracers of Armor +8 (to get equivalent bonus to armor), 50000gpArm SlotContinuous +8 Armor BonusNo Armor Check PenaltyNo Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal AttacksVirtually No WeightNo Maximum Dexterity BonusCloak, 4500gpCloak SlotContinuous +4 Armor Bonus, Continuous +4 Shield BonusImmunity to Magic MisslesNo Armor Check PenaltyNo Chance of Spell FailureWorks against Incorporeal AttacksVirtually No WeightNo Maximum Dexterity BonusDo you still find this balanced in cost?I gotta say if the answer to this question is yes then I got a great deal for you.  I have some ocean front property in Arizona, and if you buy now I will throw in the Golden Gate Bridge for free.</blockquote>

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