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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 2833581" data-attributes="member: 18363">I was stating that sort of tongue-in-cheek. Personally, I think it should be a third level spell (ie: +2 levels), but that is just me. Okay, I can accept that. However, would this mean that a similar item against, say, Chaos or Law would receive a reduction? I can also see Evil NPC foes wearing ones that protect against Good. Would that receive a reduction, since - if the PCs took them as treasure afterwards - they would receive far less use from them?I had forgotten that bit. Thanks for the reminder.Hmm, that sounds about right. It is only a few k gp from my second suggestion of 50k gp. Considering that a continuous third level spell effect on an item results in about 30k, this is a bit expensive, actually - almost exactly the cost of a 4th level spell continuous item (56k gp, 4 * 7 * 2k). So perhaps my view of Protection from Evil being best suited as a 3rd level spell is off, and the spell should instead be a 4th level spell. Somehow that just seems too high a level for the spell. But I can see the reasoning for the item itself having such a price (of a 4th level continuous spell effect). x2 because it is minutes per level? Where is that stated? As far as I can tell, spell duration has little effect upon how long an item lasts. Wait a minute, charaged? This is not a charged item, so I don't think that should have any effect. As it is, at 55k gp the item is impossible to buy before 11th level (going by suggested PC wealth per level in PHB2, page 215) - and that's presuming no other magical equipment at all! I somehow doubt anyone would buy the item at that level. It's not really affordable to buy until level 14 or 15 - when it takes up a third or a quarter of the wealth of the character, respectively. So, at 55k gp, we're talking about a high level item, the type that won't be commonly had until near pre-epic levels. Somehow I doubt that is 'too little' for this item. Doubling the cost makes it not cost effective to have the item prior to level 16 or 17. I note that at 15th level a caster may use Mindblank for 24 near immunity to enchantments and Divinations from creatures of all alignments. At level 16 a Sorcerer with a good Cha could cast Mindblank on all the members of the party and themself and perhaps still have a spell or two to cast from that level. So could a Wizard or Cleric, for that matter. Granted, a caster would most likely not be willing to do so in many instances, as their number of higher level spells for the day would be severely curtailed, but this does suggest that the usefulness of a Protection from Evil item at such a level is very little if a friendly caster is in the party and willing to cast it upon you. I cannot imagine a PC ever spending more than a third of their total wealth on such an item, although I admit that perhaps such may be typical in your games. As such, 17th level is the earliest the item will be bought it if costs 110k gp. I note that a 17th level PC with Leadership can have a 15th level cohort - who almost certainly would not mind casting Mindblank on them. Thus a simple feat replaces the need for item with something far superior to it at the level when the PC could typically afford to buy the item, considering that much of their wealth will likely be in the form of armor, weaponry, and various ability enhancement items (present and past). So again I state that 50k or 55k gp is a much more realistic price than 110 gp, as no one is likely to ever buy the item at that price, as better means will exist for equal or (far) less cost by that level [17]._/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/As a question, how many think that Protection from Evil should be a higher level? How many think it should be 2nd level? How many think it should be 3rd level? How many think it should be 4th level? How many think it is just right for its current level (1st)?I don't know how to do Polls on this board (not even sure if I can do polls on this board), but if anyone knows how to do them and can do them, I think it would be interesting to see the result of such a poll. I wonder if the result of the poll would be different if the text specifically mentioned the creation of an item of continuous Protection from Evil? Somehow I think it would, but I wonder if even without that text many would increase the level of the spell?</blockquote>

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