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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 5232738" data-attributes="member: 524">@mneme - My campaign is totally story based - they have no dungeon based encounters at all since this campaign takes place above-ground and in cities exclusively.However the ideas everyone has suggested regarding time limits, red herrings, and so on are things that solve my problem on a one-off basis. These are things that cannot be sustained continuously.@Cormacolinde - do you actually mean a creature who is L+4 or actual encounters L+4? Because I ran an encounter when they were 7th level that was 10th level and I dropped two of the party with ease, none of them being able to hit the leader monster in question very easily but it being able to hit on anything above a 3. I had to fiddle the encounter a little to stop the creature from annihilating the party (and it was only a Skirmisher with no ranged attacks).The comments that they should have 4 to 6 encounters per adventuring day concern me. They've been having 3 to 4 per day as I've stated before - perhaps I need to definitely push them a little harder in this regard. However, if the players/characters do not wish to do this I am not going to force them on a regular basis.</blockquote>