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<blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 5310063" data-attributes="member: 524"><p>@Admin - Thanks to the keeping a rein on the thread.</p><p></p><p>[MENTION=80713]Istar[/MENTION] - if you had cared to actually read what I said, everything that wasn't RAW was prefaced by "in my opinion".</p><p></p><p>That was intentional because it is what I thought and how I might rule if it were my game. But if you want a 100% RAW answer, then you cannot have one. </p><p></p><p>Why? Because the action required for the removal of items is not explicitly listed anywhere in the PHB. The PHB lists the most common actions to be taken in combat which do not include removing magic items that you are benefitting from. Obviously they did not take into account someone trying to gain mechanical bonuses from two separate items.</p><p></p><p>It has already been stated that the first item in a slot operates while the others "wait" for removal of the first item.</p><p></p><p>So my opinion is based on gut feeling as to the RAW and what it was intended for. In addition any DM will think on what you are trying to do and rule based on that. It is very clear to me (<--- to me) that you are trying to bend the rules in a way that will not necessarily break the game, but it will twist the rules in a way that would not be in the spirit of the game. </p><p></p><p>Thus I would most likely be harsher in judging the action types required. Nowhere did I state that I would not allow what you were talking about, I stated my opinion on the action types and why it wouldn't work as easily.</p><p></p><p>What I have an issue with is that you are equating the equipping of a magic item the same as drinking a potion, or drawing a weapon. The reason that drawing a weapon is a special case is because sheathes are designed to allow easy access to the weapon.</p><p></p><p>The more I read this thread, the more I come to the conclusion that a standard action for putting on a magic item is well within the boundaries set by the RAW. Removal of items is arguable but I think a Move action is pretty average.</p><p></p><p>Anyway as everyone has pretty much stated - it is up to your DM.</p><p></p><p>D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dvvega, post: 5310063, member: 524"] @Admin - Thanks to the keeping a rein on the thread. [MENTION=80713]Istar[/MENTION] - if you had cared to actually read what I said, everything that wasn't RAW was prefaced by "in my opinion". That was intentional because it is what I thought and how I might rule if it were my game. But if you want a 100% RAW answer, then you cannot have one. Why? Because the action required for the removal of items is not explicitly listed anywhere in the PHB. The PHB lists the most common actions to be taken in combat which do not include removing magic items that you are benefitting from. Obviously they did not take into account someone trying to gain mechanical bonuses from two separate items. It has already been stated that the first item in a slot operates while the others "wait" for removal of the first item. So my opinion is based on gut feeling as to the RAW and what it was intended for. In addition any DM will think on what you are trying to do and rule based on that. It is very clear to me (<--- to me) that you are trying to bend the rules in a way that will not necessarily break the game, but it will twist the rules in a way that would not be in the spirit of the game. Thus I would most likely be harsher in judging the action types required. Nowhere did I state that I would not allow what you were talking about, I stated my opinion on the action types and why it wouldn't work as easily. What I have an issue with is that you are equating the equipping of a magic item the same as drinking a potion, or drawing a weapon. The reason that drawing a weapon is a special case is because sheathes are designed to allow easy access to the weapon. The more I read this thread, the more I come to the conclusion that a standard action for putting on a magic item is well within the boundaries set by the RAW. Removal of items is arguable but I think a Move action is pretty average. Anyway as everyone has pretty much stated - it is up to your DM. D [/QUOTE]
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