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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 461888" data-attributes="member: 545"><p>I am not arguing about whether there are consequences to losing a stat. We both agree that your allowable spells to <em>cast</em> for that day immediately changes, among other things.</p><p></p><p>I am arguing over what happens to <em>already prepared spells</em>. Their status is not quite so clearcut as you suggest. By the letter of the rules, an already prepared spell stays prepared until a rule explicitly removes that spell. Where is this explicit rule?</p><p></p><p>There are benefits of a stat that are not instantly removed when the stat temporarily drops. Frex, if your Int drops, you are not required to immediately scratch off skills ranks. A gray area does exist.</p><p></p><p>Another example: Does a wizard who fails his save against Feeblemind instantly lose ALL his prepped spells? What if he is Healed the next round? Remember that you must have an Int of 10 + <spell level> to cast or prepare a given spell. Consider your answer carefully; this will have a huge effect on the play value of the spell against wizards.</p><p></p><p>I just don't happen to find it illogical for a spellcaster to have spells prepared he is not capable of casting that day. Perhaps it seems more logical to you to disallow it. I admit that is a very reasonable extrapolation from the rules.</p><p></p><p>I just happen to believe that the counterintuitive answer is actually easier to use and closer to the letter of the law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 461888, member: 545"] I am not arguing about whether there are consequences to losing a stat. We both agree that your allowable spells to [i]cast[/i] for that day immediately changes, among other things. I am arguing over what happens to [i]already prepared spells[/i]. Their status is not quite so clearcut as you suggest. By the letter of the rules, an already prepared spell stays prepared until a rule explicitly removes that spell. Where is this explicit rule? There are benefits of a stat that are not instantly removed when the stat temporarily drops. Frex, if your Int drops, you are not required to immediately scratch off skills ranks. A gray area does exist. Another example: Does a wizard who fails his save against Feeblemind instantly lose ALL his prepped spells? What if he is Healed the next round? Remember that you must have an Int of 10 + <spell level> to cast or prepare a given spell. Consider your answer carefully; this will have a huge effect on the play value of the spell against wizards. I just don't happen to find it illogical for a spellcaster to have spells prepared he is not capable of casting that day. Perhaps it seems more logical to you to disallow it. I admit that is a very reasonable extrapolation from the rules. I just happen to believe that the counterintuitive answer is actually easier to use and closer to the letter of the law. [/QUOTE]
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