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<blockquote data-quote="Greythax" data-source="post: 202808" data-attributes="member: 4651">Ok, will try this again.&nbsp; Timeout ate my last post.Here is my 2 cents.Basically, A monsters CR is *supposed* to reflect feats like improved grab.&nbsp; If this ability worked like a normal grapple check and negated the grapple attempt on dealing damage, the monster would be *too easy for its CR*.&nbsp; Rather than have this happen, I think WotC went for a poorly worded compromise.&nbsp; The feat should have said something along the lines of;&nbsp;&quot;Damage from attacks of oppertunity do not cancel the improved grab as they do a normal grapple attempt, but you may add your damage to the grapple check against the improved grab.&quot;Forgive the brevity of this post, the last one was slightly more eloquent, but I can't bring myself to type it over again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Greythax</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greythax, post: 202808, member: 4651"] Ok, will try this again. Timeout ate my last post. Here is my 2 cents. Basically, A monsters CR is *supposed* to reflect feats like improved grab. If this ability worked like a normal grapple check and negated the grapple attempt on dealing damage, the monster would be *too easy for its CR*. Rather than have this happen, I think WotC went for a poorly worded compromise. The feat should have said something along the lines of; "Damage from attacks of oppertunity do not cancel the improved grab as they do a normal grapple attempt, but you may add your damage to the grapple check against the improved grab." Forgive the brevity of this post, the last one was slightly more eloquent, but I can't bring myself to type it over again :) Greythax [/QUOTE]

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