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Message: <blockquote data-quote="javgoro" data-source="post: 5593068" data-attributes="member: 100252">Ok, let's see if I can explain the whole situation in a way that makes sense, and hope it helps you understand things.In a grapple:Step 1      <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/attacksOfOpportunity.htm" target="_blank">Attack of Opportunity</a>.  You provoke an attack of opportunity from the target you are trying to  grapple. If the attack of opportunity deals damage, the grapple attempt  fails. (Certain monsters do not provoke attacks of opportunity when they  attempt to grapple, nor do characters with the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#improvedGrapple" target="_blank">Improved Grapple</a> feat.) If the attack of opportunity misses or fails to deal damage, proceed to Step 2. So, let's say you have an ogre (with DR 3/-) and a remorhaz. The ogre doesn't have improved grapple, while the remorhaz has it, and both are trying to attack Tordek the Fighter and Mialee the wizard. Tordek has CCD.Ogre attacks Tordek, Tordek gains an AoO. That attack of opportunity hits, and since Tordek doesn't have IG, his grappling attempt is stopped (as per the text of CCF), whether Tordek's attack deals any damage or not.Ogre attacks Mialee, Mialee takes an AoO, but that AoO deals 2 damage, and thus is negated by the Ogre's DR. The ogre proceeds to grapple.Remorhaz attacks Mialee with a bite, and hits. Since the remorhaz has improved grab, he proceeds to grapple Mialee, who doesn't gain an AoO. Then the remorhaz proceeds to swallow Mialee on his next turn, as she's already grabbed. She gains no AoO against this.Remorhaz attacks Tordek. Tordek gains an AoO, thanks to CCF (since improved grab would stop him from gaining it), and deals 10 damage to the remorhaz. If the remorhaz hadn't had Improved Grab, he couldn't try to grapple now (as per CCF), but unluckily for the dwarf, the creature has it. Tordek rolls his grapple test with a +10 bonus, but still loses to the remorhaz. On the next turn, Tordek is already grabbed, so the dragon proceeds to swallowing him. Since the dragon isn't trying to grapple him (even if swallowing him requires a grapple check), Tordek gets no AoO from CCF, nor a bonus to his roll.Hope that's a bit clearer.A small edit: I've used Improved Grapple and Improved Grab interchangeably in the post, but for all intents and purposes, they work the same way for Close Quarters Fighting.</blockquote>

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