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Message: <blockquote data-quote="javgoro" data-source="post: 5593093" data-attributes="member: 100252">The damage caused by CCF wouldn't negate an Improved Grapple, as per the text of CCF, which explains what happens when you factor Improved Grapple. In a normal grapple, the damage would negate the grapple, but since there is no AoO with Improved Grapple, they clarify the effect of both together.To summarize, even more back to basics:Grappling without improved grapple/grab, against an enemy without CCF:- You provoke an Attack of Opportunity. If that attack of opportunity hits and deals damage, you cannot continue grappling. If the AoO hits but deals no damage, you can still grapple.Grappling without improved grapple/grab, against an enemy with CCF:- You provoke an Attack of Opportunity. If that attack of opportunity hits you cannot continue grappling. If the AoO hits but deals no damage, you cannot grapple (thanks to CCF).Grappling with improved grapple, against an enemy without CCF:- You do not provoke an Attack of Opportunity. You grapple as normal.Grappling with improved grapple, against an enemy with CCF:- You provoke an Attack of Opportunity. You continue grappling, but if the attack hit, the defender adds the damage of that AoO to his grapple roll.</blockquote>