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<blockquote data-quote="yesnomu" data-source="post: 4525190" data-attributes="member: 77306">You're kidding, right? Cloudkill used to be a fantastic BBEG killer, because it did automatic Con damage. Stick the BBEG in a forcecage or a Wall of Force shaped like a box, and sit back and watch them die.To be fair, there were upteen-thousand ways to one-shot BBEGs with spells in 3.5, but Cloudkill used to be much, much better. The mighty have fallen pretty hard here.I just got Stinking Cloud in my 4e game, and I did a double take at Cloudkill when looking at the higher-level spells. A bigger area and the ability to make ranged attacks at the bad guys does not make up for a difference in 14 levels! It ought to do at least 2d10, and be moveable as part of the sustain minor, like Mord's Sword.Of course, a lot of high level Wizard powers are pretty disappointing, but there are enough Legion's Holds/Mass Flys/Prismatic Sprays left that Cloudkill just seems useless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="yesnomu, post: 4525190, member: 77306"] You're kidding, right? Cloudkill used to be a fantastic BBEG killer, because it did automatic Con damage. Stick the BBEG in a forcecage or a Wall of Force shaped like a box, and sit back and watch them die. To be fair, there were upteen-thousand ways to one-shot BBEGs with spells in 3.5, but Cloudkill used to be much, much better. The mighty have fallen pretty hard here. I just got Stinking Cloud in my 4e game, and I did a double take at Cloudkill when looking at the higher-level spells. A bigger area and the ability to make ranged attacks at the bad guys does not make up for a difference in 14 levels! It ought to do [I]at least[/I] 2d10, and be moveable as part of the sustain minor, like Mord's Sword. Of course, a lot of high level Wizard powers are pretty disappointing, but there are enough Legion's Holds/Mass Flys/Prismatic Sprays left that Cloudkill just seems useless. [/QUOTE]

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