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<blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 4955978" data-attributes="member: 61612"><p>He seems to lack durability. 3000 hp isn't all that much at level 50, let alone 100. His Armor Class is quite low (Touch doesn't even bear mentioning) and his DR might as well not even be there.</p><p> </p><p>I'd honestly, right now, peg him around cr 60, but maybe I'm missing something. It just seems to me he wouldn't even be a speed bump for a level 100 party as it stands. </p><p> </p><p>I don't have anything at that ECL to compare to at the moment, the closest I have is an ECL 124/CR 82 Intermediate Deity who has 18,000 hp, 180 AC, +200 to attack, all saves in the +110 vicinity...either I'm doing something wrong or Cloverfield here is off by a wide margin.</p><p> </p><p>Unfortunately, I've never seen the movie, so I can't make any suggestions on how to fix him. Is there any reason he has to be CR 101? Maybe some kind of Divine Toughness would help him live longer, I don't know if that's too far out of character though.</p><p> </p><p>Looking in the Bestiary, the only things close are the Mercury Colossus, the Orichalcum Golem, Sandalphon, and the Cherubim.</p><p> </p><p>The Mercury Colossus would kill him with maybe a little trouble, as is.</p><p> </p><p>The Orichalcum Golem laughs and nukes him from 20 miles away, doing twice his hp in one hit.</p><p> </p><p>Sandalphon wastes ten rounds deciding just HOW to effortlessly obliterate him.</p><p> </p><p>And the Cherubim roars. Cloverfield dies. </p><p> </p><p>So, something needs to be changed. Either raise him to meet his ECL or lower his ECL to match what's there. If these stats accurately reflect what he does in the movie, I'd suggest lowering his Cr/ECL, because if that's the case, he's clearly not in the league of the likes of Sandalphon.</p><p> </p><p>Wish I had more actual ideas...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Belzamus, post: 4955978, member: 61612"] He seems to lack durability. 3000 hp isn't all that much at level 50, let alone 100. His Armor Class is quite low (Touch doesn't even bear mentioning) and his DR might as well not even be there. I'd honestly, right now, peg him around cr 60, but maybe I'm missing something. It just seems to me he wouldn't even be a speed bump for a level 100 party as it stands. I don't have anything at that ECL to compare to at the moment, the closest I have is an ECL 124/CR 82 Intermediate Deity who has 18,000 hp, 180 AC, +200 to attack, all saves in the +110 vicinity...either I'm doing something wrong or Cloverfield here is off by a wide margin. Unfortunately, I've never seen the movie, so I can't make any suggestions on how to fix him. Is there any reason he has to be CR 101? Maybe some kind of Divine Toughness would help him live longer, I don't know if that's too far out of character though. Looking in the Bestiary, the only things close are the Mercury Colossus, the Orichalcum Golem, Sandalphon, and the Cherubim. The Mercury Colossus would kill him with maybe a little trouble, as is. The Orichalcum Golem laughs and nukes him from 20 miles away, doing twice his hp in one hit. Sandalphon wastes ten rounds deciding just HOW to effortlessly obliterate him. And the Cherubim roars. Cloverfield dies. So, something needs to be changed. Either raise him to meet his ECL or lower his ECL to match what's there. If these stats accurately reflect what he does in the movie, I'd suggest lowering his Cr/ECL, because if that's the case, he's clearly not in the league of the likes of Sandalphon. Wish I had more actual ideas... [/QUOTE]
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