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Cloverfield - The Immortal's Handbook 4E to 3.5 Conversion
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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4956656" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey guys! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the target CR needs to be re-evaluated. Looking at my Godzilla on the website, which is a much more powerful beast and only clocks in at CR 88. Theres no way Cloverfield should be anywhere near that in this present incarnation.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>18,000 hit points, thats quite good. How did you get that?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>What do you mean you haven't seen the movie? Go out and rent the dvd as homework. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>The big thing for me is that the Cloverfield monster (allegedly) survives getting hit by a nuke.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the basic idea was to convert from my 4E version (Level 36 Solo Brute) using my Conversion rules...which is CR 97-106.</p><p></p><p>At CR 88, Godzilla would only convert to a Level 35 Solo Soldier, although I sort of wanted him about Level 40. Reducing the Cloverfield monster by the same amount would bring it down to a Level 31 Solo Brute (4E). Thats CR 51-53, which actually seems fairly appropriate in this case.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly enough, the Tarrasque looks a bit like the american Godzilla (GINO).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe some Improved Toughness feats (which Godzilla has in abundance).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The reason I made Cloverfield Level 36 (4E) was to represent its Mega-sized status, whereby the Tarrasque is merely Gargantuan.</p><p></p><p>Loking at 4E there is roughly about an 8 level minimum between size differences, albeit with a few exceptions.</p><p></p><p>So Large starts at about Level 7-8 (although one or two monsters sneak under that).</p><p></p><p>Huge is about 15-16+ (and Huge monsters are generally always Elites or better).</p><p></p><p>Gargantuan is about 23-24+ (and Gargantuan monsters are generally Solos).</p><p></p><p>Therefore Mega-size will be about 31-32+, Giga-size will be about 39-40+, Tera-size will be about 47-48+, etc.</p><p></p><p>So I suppose we could hypothetically say the Tarrasque is the upper limits of Gargantuan, while the Mega-sized Cloverfield monster is the lower limits of the Mega-size category. </p><p></p><p>I'd also change the parasites to be something more closely resembling the movie monsters, rather than forcing them into epic monsters (even minions) which they clearly were not. In fact you could probably even substitute Kruthiks (with a bit of tweaking to the poison). Level 4 Skirmishers sounds about right, that would be Level 12 minions. The challenge might be to stop the parasites infecting innocent bystanders rather than worrying about having them take on epic PCs who can stand up to the Cloverfield Monster itself.</p><p></p><p>...and also convert Godzilla to Level 35 Solo Soldier, which sounds like something I might do tomorrow for the website.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4956656, member: 326"] Hey guys! :) I think the target CR needs to be re-evaluated. Looking at my Godzilla on the website, which is a much more powerful beast and only clocks in at CR 88. Theres no way Cloverfield should be anywhere near that in this present incarnation. 18,000 hit points, thats quite good. How did you get that? What do you mean you haven't seen the movie? Go out and rent the dvd as homework. :p The big thing for me is that the Cloverfield monster (allegedly) survives getting hit by a nuke. I think the basic idea was to convert from my 4E version (Level 36 Solo Brute) using my Conversion rules...which is CR 97-106. At CR 88, Godzilla would only convert to a Level 35 Solo Soldier, although I sort of wanted him about Level 40. Reducing the Cloverfield monster by the same amount would bring it down to a Level 31 Solo Brute (4E). Thats CR 51-53, which actually seems fairly appropriate in this case. Interestingly enough, the Tarrasque looks a bit like the american Godzilla (GINO). Maybe some Improved Toughness feats (which Godzilla has in abundance). The reason I made Cloverfield Level 36 (4E) was to represent its Mega-sized status, whereby the Tarrasque is merely Gargantuan. Loking at 4E there is roughly about an 8 level minimum between size differences, albeit with a few exceptions. So Large starts at about Level 7-8 (although one or two monsters sneak under that). Huge is about 15-16+ (and Huge monsters are generally always Elites or better). Gargantuan is about 23-24+ (and Gargantuan monsters are generally Solos). Therefore Mega-size will be about 31-32+, Giga-size will be about 39-40+, Tera-size will be about 47-48+, etc. So I suppose we could hypothetically say the Tarrasque is the upper limits of Gargantuan, while the Mega-sized Cloverfield monster is the lower limits of the Mega-size category. I'd also change the parasites to be something more closely resembling the movie monsters, rather than forcing them into epic monsters (even minions) which they clearly were not. In fact you could probably even substitute Kruthiks (with a bit of tweaking to the poison). Level 4 Skirmishers sounds about right, that would be Level 12 minions. The challenge might be to stop the parasites infecting innocent bystanders rather than worrying about having them take on epic PCs who can stand up to the Cloverfield Monster itself. ...and also convert Godzilla to Level 35 Solo Soldier, which sounds like something I might do tomorrow for the website. [/QUOTE]
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