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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4958532" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Howdy Khisanth mate! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Could well be, I don't remember knowing exactly one way or the other. It would make sense to try a MOAB before nukes anyway.</p><p></p><p>The MOAB would deal about 166 damage in 3E...is that right? (just off the top of my head).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Has he indeed. Okay, thanks for that. </p><p></p><p>He also seemed to infer that the monster in the movie was merely an infant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The mistake was mine. I should have converted Godzilla first (to Level 35 Solo Soldier) and then done the Cloverfield monster (between Levels 31-34).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Arguable. The Tarrasque at best, is something akin to the american Godzilla, which was itself taken out by two missiles from fighter planes.</p><p></p><p>While the Cloverfield Monster was, as you say killed by the MOAB, it had already taken a pounding from Fighter Jets and Tanks - whether they were hurting it is debateable I suppose.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. I definately think that Level 30-something Solo Monster (and thus about CR 50+) is a better bet. That puts it roughly on a par with a Demigod (in both 3E and 4E).</p><p></p><p>A few points of contention remain. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, if we equate the Tarrasque in part with the American Godzilla, then the 48 HD version (approx. 96 feet tall) would strictly be considered a 'Young' Tarrasque. In the movie, wikipedia lists its height somewhere between about 197-295 feet, lets split the difference for 246 feet. That would give it 123 Hit Dice. Or we could simply triple its Hit Dice (as per advancement rules) to get 144 Hit Dice (288 feet). 144 Hit Dice gives it a target CR of 72.</p><p></p><p>Clover is listed as 350 feet tall upright, or 250 feet quadruped. But it did seem pretty skinny compared to other Megasaurs, so I think 125 Hid Dice is more or less on the money. If we make a rough attempt to give it a CR equal to half its Hit Dice then it would be about CR 62.</p><p></p><p>Godzilla's top height is listed as 328 feet, which is 164 Hit Dice, CR 82 or thereabouts being the target.</p><p></p><p>Godzilla - about CR 82 = Level 34 Solo Soldier</p><p>Clover - about CR 62 = Level 32 Solo Brute</p><p>Zilla/Advanced Tarrasque* - about CR 72 = Level 33 Solo Brute?</p><p>King Ghidorah (210 HD) - CR 105 = Level 36 Solo Artillery </p><p></p><p>*Conversely that also means that the Level 30 Solo Brute Tarrasque in the 4E Monster Manual 1 is actually representative of a CR 50/100 Hit Dice/200 ft. tall version of the monster.</p><p></p><p>If a normal character is 1 inch tall, then Godzilla would be about 4 feet 7 inches tall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4958532, member: 326"] Howdy Khisanth mate! :) Could well be, I don't remember knowing exactly one way or the other. It would make sense to try a MOAB before nukes anyway. The MOAB would deal about 166 damage in 3E...is that right? (just off the top of my head). Has he indeed. Okay, thanks for that. He also seemed to infer that the monster in the movie was merely an infant. The mistake was mine. I should have converted Godzilla first (to Level 35 Solo Soldier) and then done the Cloverfield monster (between Levels 31-34). Arguable. The Tarrasque at best, is something akin to the american Godzilla, which was itself taken out by two missiles from fighter planes. While the Cloverfield Monster was, as you say killed by the MOAB, it had already taken a pounding from Fighter Jets and Tanks - whether they were hurting it is debateable I suppose. Agreed. I definately think that Level 30-something Solo Monster (and thus about CR 50+) is a better bet. That puts it roughly on a par with a Demigod (in both 3E and 4E). A few points of contention remain. Firstly, if we equate the Tarrasque in part with the American Godzilla, then the 48 HD version (approx. 96 feet tall) would strictly be considered a 'Young' Tarrasque. In the movie, wikipedia lists its height somewhere between about 197-295 feet, lets split the difference for 246 feet. That would give it 123 Hit Dice. Or we could simply triple its Hit Dice (as per advancement rules) to get 144 Hit Dice (288 feet). 144 Hit Dice gives it a target CR of 72. Clover is listed as 350 feet tall upright, or 250 feet quadruped. But it did seem pretty skinny compared to other Megasaurs, so I think 125 Hid Dice is more or less on the money. If we make a rough attempt to give it a CR equal to half its Hit Dice then it would be about CR 62. Godzilla's top height is listed as 328 feet, which is 164 Hit Dice, CR 82 or thereabouts being the target. Godzilla - about CR 82 = Level 34 Solo Soldier Clover - about CR 62 = Level 32 Solo Brute Zilla/Advanced Tarrasque* - about CR 72 = Level 33 Solo Brute? King Ghidorah (210 HD) - CR 105 = Level 36 Solo Artillery *Conversely that also means that the Level 30 Solo Brute Tarrasque in the 4E Monster Manual 1 is actually representative of a CR 50/100 Hit Dice/200 ft. tall version of the monster. If a normal character is 1 inch tall, then Godzilla would be about 4 feet 7 inches tall. [/QUOTE]
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