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<blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 4981640" data-attributes="member: 61612">Hey, U_K.&nbsp;I'd argue that anyone who can't overcome that kind of DR has no business calling themselves a warrior of any kind.&nbsp;A First One would have DR 9,600 in this case. &nbsp;The absolute high end for PA is with a scythe, Ultimate Power Attack, Perfect Critical/Multiplier, UnearthlyWeapon Spec, and Leap Attack. &nbsp;That gives a ratio of 256:1 on a charge, with a 16-20/x16.&nbsp;Now let's give him the Double War Portfolio, which puts his BaB at +480. Attack rapidly outpaces Ac at this point, so let's assume he can use it all.&nbsp;That gives us +122,880 damage a hit, with a 25% chance for +1,966,080.&nbsp;Now, that is ABSURD. But it blows through DR 9,600 like it's not even there.&nbsp;I really question the competency of a Sidereal wishing to engage in melee if they CAN'T do more than 10,000 damage a hit. Why bother anyway? Your opponent has 1/2 a million hp to begin with, little peasly 1,000 damage hits won't register anyway.&nbsp;Now, on a lower tier, it does break down. Maybe it's not even needed there. But seriously, DR 120/-- on a First One is pitiful. It might as well not even be there. 120 points of damage is meaningless at that point. &nbsp;Say, absurdly, you're 3WF with Ultimate Weapon Spec and have 200 attacks per round at 200 damage. 40,000 if they all connect. Whoo-hoo! Not even one hit of a the average two-hander. &nbsp;No, either a multi-hit specialist finds a way of ignoring DR or they get their damage high enough to count in the first place.&nbsp;And generalists...well, I guess they learn there lesson. If their spells are too weak to be of use because of their dilletanted-ness, their attacks should be too.&nbsp;And...that's all very off-topic. Sorry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belzamus, post: 4981640, member: 61612"] Hey, U_K. I'd argue that anyone who can't overcome that kind of DR has no business calling themselves a warrior of any kind. A First One would have DR 9,600 in this case. The absolute high end for PA is with a scythe, Ultimate Power Attack, Perfect Critical/Multiplier, UnearthlyWeapon Spec, and Leap Attack. That gives a ratio of 256:1 on a charge, with a 16-20/x16. Now let's give him the Double War Portfolio, which puts his BaB at +480. Attack rapidly outpaces Ac at this point, so let's assume he can use it all. That gives us +122,880 damage a hit, with a 25% chance for +1,966,080. Now, that is ABSURD. But it blows through DR 9,600 like it's not even there. I really question the competency of a Sidereal wishing to engage in melee if they CAN'T do more than 10,000 damage a hit. Why bother anyway? Your opponent has 1/2 a million hp to begin with, little peasly 1,000 damage hits won't register anyway. Now, on a lower tier, it does break down. Maybe it's not even needed there. But seriously, DR 120/-- on a First One is pitiful. It might as well not even be there. 120 points of damage is meaningless at that point. Say, absurdly, you're 3WF with Ultimate Weapon Spec and have 200 attacks per round at 200 damage. 40,000 if they all connect. Whoo-hoo! Not even one hit of a the average two-hander. No, either a multi-hit specialist finds a way of ignoring DR or they get their damage high enough to count in the first place. And generalists...well, I guess they learn there lesson. If their spells are too weak to be of use because of their dilletanted-ness, their attacks should be too. And...that's all very off-topic. Sorry. [/QUOTE]

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