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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2529506" data-attributes="member: 35788">Oh, crap.  I did.  Didn't even realize it ... but that's what I get for posting late at night.  Dude - totally sorry.  It was an honest mistake.  Seriously, I wasn't even thinking about it.  Trust me, from now on - Destiny is going to react to Gav as though he is just a young human - until such a time as it is figured out.Now that I feel like a schmuck as a DM ... lets move on to the Oathbreaker thing.  Daz, I'll give you some options as to where you want to go with this Oathbreaker thing:A.  Bigtime Quest - probably not resolved until the characters are high level.  Realizing, of course, that this may never happen in-game and if it does it may be years down the road IRL.  The example I am thinking of is something along the lines of the Oathbreaker is a renegade evil Bous who has stolen the Shield of the Proto-Boes.  For reference and statistics, see Shield of the Resolute, Complete Divine p. 101 - except that obviously it pertains to the Boes (not dwarves) and it isnot Moradin who is worshiped.  The Shield of the Proto-Boes is made up of many piece of the first armor of the Boes who were originally bred from Minotaur kind centuries (if not millenia) ago.  Nobody knows how long this shield has been in existance.  The Proto-Boes are the ones who were bred from minotaur stock (and thus technically half minotaur) and who fought against the Minotaur to win their friendom from their evil and hatred.  Over the time that has passed, much of the Minotaur DNA has been lost and the modern Boes race has evolved into what it is today.  This shield is the pinnacle of all Boes hope in the world.  It is what reminds them to never fall prey to their own anger and revert back to their ancestry.  It is what many Boes look to as strength to use their strength for positive means rather than selfish gain.  Unfortunately, a nasty, evil Boes stole it and has been named the Oathbreaker.B.  Medium level quest.  Designed for levels 7-10.  The Oathbreaker is a mage/psionic/whatever class fits that is intentionally expiramenting on Boes to try and blend human ingenuity with the Boes vitality and strength.  Unfortunately, many of the expiraments are fatal to the Boes who are captured for scientific purposes.  Legend has it that persecution will come upon the Boes by an outside force, but two special Boes will rally a group of unlikely heroes to seek out this Oathbreaker and destroy him/her.  Once their persecution is made public and the threat is dealt with, the Boes will become lifted up and more respected throughout the land.C.  Low-level:  A xenophobic human/dwarf/duergar/drow/illithid/whatever has decided that the Boes are a plague upon the people.  This xenophobic leader is intentionally leading out massive raiding parties and slaughtering all Boes without question.  The legend of the Oathbreaker says that two Boes will rise up, rallying support from the other races that share the land, and free the Boes from this persecution.  Once their persecution is made public and the threat is dealt with, the Boes will become lifted up and more respected throughout the land.... Or, something along those lines.  So - I'll let primarily you and jkason figure out what makes the most sense in regard to a quest.  Something reachable - or something glorious but far off.</blockquote>

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