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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2671262" data-attributes="member: 35788"><p><span style="color: Lime">mg2001</span> - the book specifically states that flurry only works when unarmored. So, you put armor on, no flurry.</p><p></p><p>Now, regarding the armor spikes - armor spikes deal damage when grappling. So, to deal damage with armor spikes you must first make a successful grapple attempt and do regular damage. The description specifically says armor spikes do "extra" piercing damage when grappling - meaning over and above what normally is done. Therefore, it would be done in addition to any abilities/feats that allow damage to occur on a successful grapple/pin. They are martial - and your barb levels grant you martial prof so that's not an issue.</p><p></p><p>You can try to use them as a regular attack - but in this case they count as a light weapon and would be in place of other attacks you would make. If you have TWF or desire to make an off-hand attack with them that is allowable at the appropriate penalties. Of course, should you make an offhand attack with something else, you cannot also make an offhand attack with the spikes. Clear?</p><p></p><p>Basically, it is saying that if you grapple, the damage is in addition. If you regular attack, the spikes are treated just like any other weapon. You can do with them what you could with another weapon ... but you may not use them in conjunction with another weapon. Additionally, down the road ... you may get them enhanced - but please remember that you would need to enhance the spikes for offense and seperately enhance the armor for defense.</p><p></p><p>And ... about the helmet spike. This is what you posted in the other thread:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've thought about it and I was going to impose a penalty because you can't watch your opponent as you charge. But it is a simple weapon and restricted already by the fact that it can only be used as a charge. The 1d8 crit:x3 is akin to two-handed simple weapon damage and that is acceptable since it is only usable on a charge. Assuming all this is acceptable, then you can order yourself up a helmet spike.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Lime">Unleashed</span> - I forgot to say this earlier - the spell swaps are perfectly fine. And your assumption about <em>Read Magic</em> is sound ... although just to spite you now I'm going to add a scroll into the treasure that <em>Read Magic</em> would help to read! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> JK, of course.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Lime">jkason</span> - Up to you if you want to post it or when you want to post it. If you decide not to post it, just E-mail me periodic updates anytime something big happens (like a new weapon, or you level-up). You don't need to worry about updating things like mundane items as I'll catch those the next time you level.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Lime">D20</span> - I've really got nothing to add here, but I didn't want you to feel left out since you weren't going to get a pesonal note! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 2671262, member: 35788"] [COLOR=Lime]mg2001[/COLOR] - the book specifically states that flurry only works when unarmored. So, you put armor on, no flurry. Now, regarding the armor spikes - armor spikes deal damage when grappling. So, to deal damage with armor spikes you must first make a successful grapple attempt and do regular damage. The description specifically says armor spikes do "extra" piercing damage when grappling - meaning over and above what normally is done. Therefore, it would be done in addition to any abilities/feats that allow damage to occur on a successful grapple/pin. They are martial - and your barb levels grant you martial prof so that's not an issue. You can try to use them as a regular attack - but in this case they count as a light weapon and would be in place of other attacks you would make. If you have TWF or desire to make an off-hand attack with them that is allowable at the appropriate penalties. Of course, should you make an offhand attack with something else, you cannot also make an offhand attack with the spikes. Clear? Basically, it is saying that if you grapple, the damage is in addition. If you regular attack, the spikes are treated just like any other weapon. You can do with them what you could with another weapon ... but you may not use them in conjunction with another weapon. Additionally, down the road ... you may get them enhanced - but please remember that you would need to enhance the spikes for offense and seperately enhance the armor for defense. And ... about the helmet spike. This is what you posted in the other thread: I've thought about it and I was going to impose a penalty because you can't watch your opponent as you charge. But it is a simple weapon and restricted already by the fact that it can only be used as a charge. The 1d8 crit:x3 is akin to two-handed simple weapon damage and that is acceptable since it is only usable on a charge. Assuming all this is acceptable, then you can order yourself up a helmet spike. [COLOR=Lime]Unleashed[/COLOR] - I forgot to say this earlier - the spell swaps are perfectly fine. And your assumption about [I]Read Magic[/I] is sound ... although just to spite you now I'm going to add a scroll into the treasure that [I]Read Magic[/I] would help to read! :p JK, of course. [COLOR=Lime]jkason[/COLOR] - Up to you if you want to post it or when you want to post it. If you decide not to post it, just E-mail me periodic updates anytime something big happens (like a new weapon, or you level-up). You don't need to worry about updating things like mundane items as I'll catch those the next time you level. [COLOR=Lime]D20[/COLOR] - I've really got nothing to add here, but I didn't want you to feel left out since you weren't going to get a pesonal note! :D [/QUOTE]
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