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Coherentizing the Timelines of all the D&D Worlds in 5E (and Ed Greenwood's current year)
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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 7392003" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>Well, according to option A, a straightforward interpretation of canon is that each D&D world experienced something like the Time of Troubles (1E > 2E), Die Vecna Die!/Apocalypse Stone (2E > 3E), Spellplague (3E > 4E), and the Second Sundering (4E > 5E), but called the events by different names. All those worlds (Abeir-Toril, Oerth, Krynn, Mystara, Aebrynis (Birthright), Athas (Dark Sun)) were an integral part of the 2E Great Wheel cosmology. And Die Vecna Die! explicitly said that the the whole multiversal framework was changing. Presumably the other "edition-change-based cosmological transformative events" affected all of the worlds...we just didn't hear about it, since WotC was no longer publishing books about them. </p><p></p><p>Greyhawk had its own Time of Troubles, detailed in the Fate of Istus, which provided in-story reasons for changing from 1E to 2E.</p><p>Krynn had the Chaos War (1e Krynn to SAGA Krynn) and War of Souls (SAGA Krynn to 3e Krynn)</p><p>And Mystara was implicitly affected by the 3.5E changes to the Plane of Nightmare/Plane of Dreams/Far Realm described in Dragon #327 "Winning Races: Diaboli--Bringing Diaboli into 3.5E"</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, Sigil and Oerth (and all the other D&D worlds) were affected in a big way by the cosmological changes which occurred at the same time as Toril's Spellplague and Second Sundering, but they wouldn't call the events by those names.</p><p></p><p>Or...according to Option B, the canonical timeline of all the "retired" worlds stopped when the last product was published. And now they just appear through a 5E lense, just one year later. But now its all lined up, and its all 5E. No catastrophes.</p><p></p><p>Both options could be justified according to canon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 7392003, member: 6688049"] Well, according to option A, a straightforward interpretation of canon is that each D&D world experienced something like the Time of Troubles (1E > 2E), Die Vecna Die!/Apocalypse Stone (2E > 3E), Spellplague (3E > 4E), and the Second Sundering (4E > 5E), but called the events by different names. All those worlds (Abeir-Toril, Oerth, Krynn, Mystara, Aebrynis (Birthright), Athas (Dark Sun)) were an integral part of the 2E Great Wheel cosmology. And Die Vecna Die! explicitly said that the the whole multiversal framework was changing. Presumably the other "edition-change-based cosmological transformative events" affected all of the worlds...we just didn't hear about it, since WotC was no longer publishing books about them. Greyhawk had its own Time of Troubles, detailed in the Fate of Istus, which provided in-story reasons for changing from 1E to 2E. Krynn had the Chaos War (1e Krynn to SAGA Krynn) and War of Souls (SAGA Krynn to 3e Krynn) And Mystara was implicitly affected by the 3.5E changes to the Plane of Nightmare/Plane of Dreams/Far Realm described in Dragon #327 "Winning Races: Diaboli--Bringing Diaboli into 3.5E" So, yeah, Sigil and Oerth (and all the other D&D worlds) were affected in a big way by the cosmological changes which occurred at the same time as Toril's Spellplague and Second Sundering, but they wouldn't call the events by those names. Or...according to Option B, the canonical timeline of all the "retired" worlds stopped when the last product was published. And now they just appear through a 5E lense, just one year later. But now its all lined up, and its all 5E. No catastrophes. Both options could be justified according to canon. [/QUOTE]
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