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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 1147298" data-attributes="member: 545">Literally speaking, the paladin did not cause the death of his followers.Practically speaking, it really depends on the situation.  Followers should be asked to do things appropriate to their abilities.  That means level one followers should not be tangling with threats greater than CR ~1 on purpose.Being assaulted by orcs may or may not qualify.  I think that bringing followers along to guard the camp and horses is a fair task in most cases.  That fact it was orcs is a point of in the Paladin's favor -- they are certainly in of the range of what a properly equiped 1st level NPCs might be asked to handle for a few rounds.  It should be obvious that the fact the followers can be warriors means it is reasonable to ask them to fight weak foes.If you as a DM feel the Leader is being a little reckless with the followers, you have options that do not include hitting him with a penalty to the Leadership score.  The simplest choice is to increase the time it takes for the Paladin to recruit new/replacement followers/cohort.  Roleplay it out to get your point across.</blockquote>