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<blockquote data-quote="2o-Eyed Foe" data-source="post: 1484726" data-attributes="member: 16753"><p>It seems that what needs to be decided is what the undead creature's perception of the PC with Cold One is. I do not have the source text with me at the moment either, but I seem to recall that non-intelligent undead consider the PC as another undead, therefore not worthy of their attention. Welby, is this correct? (I'm going to blame you welby when I tell karen I spent yet another 30$ for the Ravenloft setting text, which I am now going to have to buy tonight) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, in any run of the mill, graveyard or crypt with zombies, skeletons, ghouls and such wandering around none of this would be an issue. All of the above mentioned undead would consider the PC simply yet another undead and pay him no mind. The issue, as I see it, arises with the undead creature being given a command to do something that may involve the PC with Cold One.</p><p></p><p>Situation 1: Random Mage A has commanded his skeleton to guard a doorway. Another skeleton, zombie, whatever passes through the doorway – does the commanded skeleton attack the interloper? Probably not. Unless, like Herpes suggested, the skeleton has been given explicit commands to attack anything, both living and dead, should it pass through the doorway.</p><p></p><p>Situation 2: Random Mage A is in a battle with Random Cleric B. Both of them have skeleton followers. The mage commands his skeleton to attack the cleric’s skeleton. I would assume that there would be no problem with this taking place, right?</p><p></p><p>I guess what I am having a difficult time reconciling is whether a non-intelligent undead recognizes another undead creature as being a threat. And if so, under what conditions?</p><p></p><p>Herpes Cineplex: I am leaning toward your interpretation and ideas for dealing with this situation as well. With one small exception. In the case of the undead being under the direct command of a more powerful and much more intelligent undead (lich, vampire ..etc..) In that instance I think that the powerful undead leader would have little difficulty in commanding his minions to attack the PC, which <em>he</em> definitely perceives as a threat. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2o-Eyed Foe, post: 1484726, member: 16753"] It seems that what needs to be decided is what the undead creature's perception of the PC with Cold One is. I do not have the source text with me at the moment either, but I seem to recall that non-intelligent undead consider the PC as another undead, therefore not worthy of their attention. Welby, is this correct? (I'm going to blame you welby when I tell karen I spent yet another 30$ for the Ravenloft setting text, which I am now going to have to buy tonight) ;) Now, in any run of the mill, graveyard or crypt with zombies, skeletons, ghouls and such wandering around none of this would be an issue. All of the above mentioned undead would consider the PC simply yet another undead and pay him no mind. The issue, as I see it, arises with the undead creature being given a command to do something that may involve the PC with Cold One. Situation 1: Random Mage A has commanded his skeleton to guard a doorway. Another skeleton, zombie, whatever passes through the doorway – does the commanded skeleton attack the interloper? Probably not. Unless, like Herpes suggested, the skeleton has been given explicit commands to attack anything, both living and dead, should it pass through the doorway. Situation 2: Random Mage A is in a battle with Random Cleric B. Both of them have skeleton followers. The mage commands his skeleton to attack the cleric’s skeleton. I would assume that there would be no problem with this taking place, right? I guess what I am having a difficult time reconciling is whether a non-intelligent undead recognizes another undead creature as being a threat. And if so, under what conditions? Herpes Cineplex: I am leaning toward your interpretation and ideas for dealing with this situation as well. With one small exception. In the case of the undead being under the direct command of a more powerful and much more intelligent undead (lich, vampire ..etc..) In that instance I think that the powerful undead leader would have little difficulty in commanding his minions to attack the PC, which [I]he[/I] definitely perceives as a threat. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. [/QUOTE]
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