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<blockquote data-quote="damiangerous" data-source="post: 4289914" data-attributes="member: 38105">Endurance has some serious issues.&nbsp; The rules in the PHB and the DMG have almost nothing in common with one another.&nbsp; For example, starvation.&nbsp; The PHB lists a DC of 10 +2 per day.&nbsp; The DMG says it's 3 weeks then a check at DC 20 for the next day and +5 each additional day.&nbsp; Suffocation and thirst have the same issues.&nbsp; Holding your breath is given in the PHB as DC 10 + 1 per round after the 5th.&nbsp; The DMG has it as 3 minutes until a DC 20 + 5 per round.&nbsp; Environmental damage is given as &quot;base 15&quot; in the PHB but nothing in the DMG is that low, severe weather starts at 20.I would assume the rules in the DMG are correct in this case because they seem like a more complete system with the &quot;rule of 3's&quot; but it's very confusing for players.Also the PHB points you to chapter 3 of the DMG for the Endurance rules, but only disease is in chapter 3.&nbsp; The rest is in chapter 9.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="damiangerous, post: 4289914, member: 38105"] Endurance has some serious issues. The rules in the PHB and the DMG have almost nothing in common with one another. For example, starvation. The PHB lists a DC of 10 +2 per day. The DMG says it's 3 weeks then a check at DC 20 for the next day and +5 each additional day. Suffocation and thirst have the same issues. Holding your breath is given in the PHB as DC 10 + 1 per round after the 5th. The DMG has it as 3 minutes until a DC 20 + 5 per round. Environmental damage is given as "base 15" in the PHB but nothing in the DMG is that low, severe weather starts at 20. I would assume the rules in the DMG are correct in this case because they seem like a more complete system with the "rule of 3's" but it's very confusing for players. Also the PHB points you to chapter 3 of the DMG for the Endurance rules, but only disease is in chapter 3. The rest is in chapter 9. [/QUOTE]

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