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<blockquote data-quote="Lewis526" data-source="post: 3791269"><p>I agree strongly with most of what you said, but I have to reply to the two paragraphs above.</p><p></p><p>First, and most importantly, I think it's total sophistry to claim that USC was unbeatable in 2004. Auburn might not have been able to beat them, but no mortal is wise enough to legitimately make the claim without seeing the teams match up on the field. Hell, USC only beat Stanford by a field goal that year, and Stanford finished the year 4-7. They also beat UCLA by only 5, and beat Cal by only 6. Which of those teams was within a touchdown of the NFL? Why would you give Auburn less chance than them? Sure, USC beat Auburn 20-0 in '03, but Auburn's much weaker '03 team had four other losses. (I don't really have the stats memorized - I looked them up on ESPN. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>How many of us, last year, could've predicted Florida's dominance over Ohio State? Tons of people were saying that it didn't matter who OSU played: the game was just a formality, and OSU was unbeatable. Ouch. The fact of the matter is that we can't know unless we see the true contest. That's all Auburn fans, or Boise State fans, or any of the several shafted schools, wanted.</p><p></p><p>I might even make the case that USC was stronger in '03, when they beat Auburn in Auburn's weaker season. That was the year that USC got shafted out of the BCS title game, and had to settle for splitting the title of "champion" with LSU. The difference between '03 and '04 for USC was that in '03 they lost their one close game, but in '04 they won their several close games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Second, and much more lightheartedly, I don't mean to kick anybody to the curb. I just miscounted the "major conferences": SEC, Big Ten, Pac-10, Big East, Big 12, and ACC make 6. If I'm going to dump on one of those, though, I'd dump the Big 12 before the ACC (no offense to Oklahoma or Texas, but you just don't have much competition right now). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lewis526, post: 3791269"] I agree strongly with most of what you said, but I have to reply to the two paragraphs above. First, and most importantly, I think it's total sophistry to claim that USC was unbeatable in 2004. Auburn might not have been able to beat them, but no mortal is wise enough to legitimately make the claim without seeing the teams match up on the field. Hell, USC only beat Stanford by a field goal that year, and Stanford finished the year 4-7. They also beat UCLA by only 5, and beat Cal by only 6. Which of those teams was within a touchdown of the NFL? Why would you give Auburn less chance than them? Sure, USC beat Auburn 20-0 in '03, but Auburn's much weaker '03 team had four other losses. (I don't really have the stats memorized - I looked them up on ESPN. ;) ) How many of us, last year, could've predicted Florida's dominance over Ohio State? Tons of people were saying that it didn't matter who OSU played: the game was just a formality, and OSU was unbeatable. Ouch. The fact of the matter is that we can't know unless we see the true contest. That's all Auburn fans, or Boise State fans, or any of the several shafted schools, wanted. I might even make the case that USC was stronger in '03, when they beat Auburn in Auburn's weaker season. That was the year that USC got shafted out of the BCS title game, and had to settle for splitting the title of "champion" with LSU. The difference between '03 and '04 for USC was that in '03 they lost their one close game, but in '04 they won their several close games. Second, and much more lightheartedly, I don't mean to kick anybody to the curb. I just miscounted the "major conferences": SEC, Big Ten, Pac-10, Big East, Big 12, and ACC make 6. If I'm going to dump on one of those, though, I'd dump the Big 12 before the ACC (no offense to Oklahoma or Texas, but you just don't have much competition right now). :P [/QUOTE]
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