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Collegiate Wizard feat - big boost to diviners?
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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1896495" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Meh, I don't know what to say... I played Wizards and in my own experience (which includes however published adventures most of the time) you don't find a large amount of scrolls in the adventures, and definitely you don't find the ones you really want.</p><p></p><p>It depends on the DM to let you copy the spell you want (for level x 50gp) from a friendly wizard or to let you buy the appropriate scroll (for a higher cost).</p><p>Some DMs don't care and allow everything, and as such they would allow this feat with ease, only you won't desperately need it in their game.</p><p>Other DMs don't like Harry Potter -style scroll shops, but they may actually allow the cheaper solution via friendly wizard, and you may very much still not need the feat.</p><p>Other DMs as well think Wizards are too good and should always have the hardest time, and they won't allow scroll shops, friendly wizards, collegiate feats and blessed books.</p><p></p><p>That leaves us with DMs who want a world where magic (at least scrolls and/or spellbooks) is scarce, but at the same time want to help the wizard player. That could actually be me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> but I don't know many others.</p><p></p><p>In any case I really don't want to believe this feat is to make a Wiz "as it was intented" to be. That would be saying that WotC didn't make the Wiz "as intended" in 3.0, they tried to correct it in 3.5 but it wasn't yet "as intended", and finally you can play it "as intended" after buying 3 books? A good hope comes from the fact that the feat isn't in the feat section but somewhere else.</p><p></p><p>BTW, it'd be nice to see if Living Greyhawk and other groups will ever allow this (my guess is NO).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1896495, member: 1465"] Meh, I don't know what to say... I played Wizards and in my own experience (which includes however published adventures most of the time) you don't find a large amount of scrolls in the adventures, and definitely you don't find the ones you really want. It depends on the DM to let you copy the spell you want (for level x 50gp) from a friendly wizard or to let you buy the appropriate scroll (for a higher cost). Some DMs don't care and allow everything, and as such they would allow this feat with ease, only you won't desperately need it in their game. Other DMs don't like Harry Potter -style scroll shops, but they may actually allow the cheaper solution via friendly wizard, and you may very much still not need the feat. Other DMs as well think Wizards are too good and should always have the hardest time, and they won't allow scroll shops, friendly wizards, collegiate feats and blessed books. That leaves us with DMs who want a world where magic (at least scrolls and/or spellbooks) is scarce, but at the same time want to help the wizard player. That could actually be me ;) but I don't know many others. In any case I really don't want to believe this feat is to make a Wiz "as it was intented" to be. That would be saying that WotC didn't make the Wiz "as intended" in 3.0, they tried to correct it in 3.5 but it wasn't yet "as intended", and finally you can play it "as intended" after buying 3 books? A good hope comes from the fact that the feat isn't in the feat section but somewhere else. BTW, it'd be nice to see if Living Greyhawk and other groups will ever allow this (my guess is NO). [/QUOTE]
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