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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6223261" data-attributes="member: 4937">Ok, we're good with CR 16-17 then.You realize this isn't an option even with a normal troll.  You can crack open a trolls skull, or flay open its chest and then kill it with a torch - but just stabbing a troll only result in a very angry but still living mass of ground up troll flesh no matter how much stabbing you do.The sample troll is already somewhat hard to kill because the normal coup de grace strategy doesn't work.  You need something that does more than 10 fire damage in order to coup de grace it, because of its fire resistance.  If you apply the half-fiend template as well, it also gains immunity to bottles of acid and the like.  And either way, it's not enough SR that casters in the low teens only have about a 50% chance of effecting it.   So we are talking about needing like 25 10HD fireballs to take it down.Unless you are planning to hand out a ring of wishes and hints that they shouldn't use the wish except to resolve some pending problem, you can assume that this isn't going to happen.   Presumably this is a boss fight you are going to want to do when the PC's are in the low teens, and as such wish and miracle won't be available as options.The above troll is immune to mobs, it's reasonably vulnerable to a professional army.  A few hundred archers with the help of a Magic Weapon spell or similar minor enhancements can knock it down, then all you need is the royal wizard to come over and cast 'Scorching Ray' until he gets lucky enough to punch through both ER, SR, and the Troll's fort save.  Presumably fantasy armies are smart enough to employ strategies like that.  If you really want veritable immunity to armies, you are going to need to carefully tailor the Troll.</blockquote>

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