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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5139158" data-attributes="member: 65726">You can't &quot;ready an action&quot; or &quot;use full defense&quot; while you're not in combat, these are combat actions. However you can make a stealth check to be very quiet while the door is opening. If those opening the door weren't expecting anyone behind, then they may be surprised (based on perception checks). Initiative is rolled. If some enemies were surprised, you have a surprise round where the crossbow guy gets a shot off, and the guy with the shield can use a standard action for full defense if he wishes (in their initiative order). During this surprise round, the surprised party or parties doesn't get to act. Then the non-surprise round begins.If the group busting through the door knows there are people behind, no surprise round is needed you just roll initiative and go. Essentially everyone had readied actions, the crossbow guy wanted to shoot as soon as the door opened, the shield guy wanted to full defense, the guy opening the door wanted to charge, and his buddy behind him was ready with a fire ball. Whose readied action goes first? Initiative will tell, and guess what, that's a regular round of combat.There should not normally be any attacks that happen outside of combat (except those that are narrated, such as you interrogate a goblin and flub some intimidate rolls, get annoyed and decide to chop it's head off, and the DM narrates the last echoing yelp of the goblin and the gruesome gush of blood).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 5139158, member: 65726"] You can't "ready an action" or "use full defense" while you're not in combat, these are combat actions. However you can make a stealth check to be very quiet while the door is opening. If those opening the door weren't expecting anyone behind, then they may be surprised (based on perception checks). Initiative is rolled. If some enemies were surprised, you have a surprise round where the crossbow guy gets a shot off, and the guy with the shield can use a standard action for full defense if he wishes (in their initiative order). During this surprise round, the surprised party or parties doesn't get to act. Then the non-surprise round begins. If the group busting through the door knows there are people behind, no surprise round is needed you just roll initiative and go. Essentially everyone had readied actions, the crossbow guy wanted to shoot as soon as the door opened, the shield guy wanted to full defense, the guy opening the door wanted to charge, and his buddy behind him was ready with a fire ball. Whose readied action goes first? Initiative will tell, and guess what, that's a regular round of combat. There should not normally be any attacks that happen outside of combat (except those that are narrated, such as you interrogate a goblin and flub some intimidate rolls, get annoyed and decide to chop it's head off, and the DM narrates the last echoing yelp of the goblin and the gruesome gush of blood). [/QUOTE]

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