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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 8828300" data-attributes="member: 59057">Combat as diplomacy by other means...I disagree that in all other editions, you could get a substantial advantage by clever approaches and I disagree that enemys are not allowed to get advantages before combat if players act unclever.So it is and always has been combat as war for me in 5e and 3e and 2e. You do combat if you must, but avoid it if possible, because it can mean your death, especially if it is a "fair"* fight.And if you know all fights are fair, combat is boring very fast, because it is just a puzzle to be solved.*scissors are OP, rock is fair... best regards, paper.</blockquote>