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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8834026" data-attributes="member: 93670">In 2e character creation step 6 is[spoiler="this"] Roll the appropriate hit die for your character. If the character is multi-classed, roll all applicable hit dice and average the results. Warrior 1d10 Priest 1d8 Rogue 1d6 Mage 1d4[/spoiler]You do add/subtract hp for high & low constitution but it's +1/+2 at 15 & 15 and -1/-2 at 6 & 3 so will often be +0 with such a wide breakeven on that.  With those rules it's just as likely to roll a 1 or 2 as average or max on the single hit die you are rolling.  a GM allowing players to take the max on that hit die is choosing to avoid some problems & give everyone a leg up at the start to be excited about without really making anyone all that much more powerful.When the rules are strict the GM can grant boons that feel awesome & say things like "hey guys, I need you to listen up, your character needs to fit into this narrative box within the world" or whatever.  If a particular player is ignoring their efforts to describe it they can  just deny or reduce that boon.In 5e level 1hp are max for the hit die plus con mod with +1/-1 at 12 & 8 giving a very small span breakeven   so it's often going to be max or max+1 if not better,  If the GM requires everyone to roll that level 1 hit die they are almost certain to wind up with less hit points than the "default".  Doing it at later levels results in a push for "can I take the average if I roll less" might sound ok  at first but the result is to raise the average considerably because now there's a 50/50 chance that they will do better than average & zero chance of walking away with less than the average.When the rules are structured in a way that leaves the GM with no option other than to nerf the default & take away power they are already fighting an uphill battle before they can even describe the narrative box.  Worse "I'm nerfing you so I can give some of it back with conditions" is a thing that rarely goes over well. 5e says the simplicity is to empower GMs to make changes but rarely leaves room for any change but a nerf unless you are going for one punch man levels of PC power.</blockquote>

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