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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GakToid" data-source="post: 1327923" data-attributes="member: 5880">3 more questions:1) I'm realizing that a bunch of spells that clerics cast don't stack with magic items:Shield of Faith -vs.- Ring of ProtectionBull’s Strength -vs.- Divine Power -vs.- Belt of Giant StrengthBear’s Endurance: -vs.- Amulet of HealthDo you feel it's better to rely on the spells or the items?Divine Power is obviously superior to Bull's Strength or a Belt of Strength, but what about Shield of Faith and Bear's Endurance?Are there other cleric spells that can be duplicated with items? (Assuming that I can't create any item I want.)Our campaign follows the DMG wealth levels.2) Is Persistent Spell worth it? Compare it to Quicken Spell:a) Both cost +4 spell levels [even]b) Persistent requires Extend [win Quicken]c) All spells can be quickened [win Quicken]Only the following spells can be made Persistent:Level 0: (7th level cleric)Detect MagicRead MagicLevel 1: (9th level cleric)BaneBlessComprehend LanguagesDeathwatchDetect EvilDetect UndeadDivine FavorEntropic ShieldObscuring MistLevel 2: (11th level cleric)Find TrapsLevel 3: (13th level cleric)Helping HandInvisibility PurgeMeld into StonePrayerSpeak with DeadLevel 4: (15th level cleric)Divine PowerFreedom of MovementRepel VerminLevel 5: (17th level cleric)CommuneRighteous MightAt 15th level you can have Divine Power, Divine Favor, Bless, and Entropic Shield running all day. However, we start at 10th. I may not live to 15th level. Perhaps it's better to rely on a quicken Divine Favor to get me into combat quickly.3) What are people's favorite spells for a melee cleric?Thanks for you help.-Gak Toid</blockquote>

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