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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 1330533" data-attributes="member: 103">If you haven't PC'ed a cleric recently, IME, review of the spells is essential.  The fact that so many of the spells provide similar type bonuses, and those bonuses are similar to items (as you already pointed out) is a real head-ache to mull through.I currently play a 10th level cleric of Pelor in RttToEE.  He has uber wis and chr with average scores in everything else.  He is a combat haus with no feats remotely related to combat - all are for undead turning.He usually prepares:Righteous Might - this is an absolute must for any, I repeat ANY, combat cleric.Divine Might (the old version raised your str to 18, so the initial score was unimportant), the 3.5 version gives you a +6 enhancement.  It works out to be at 10th level a +6 to hit and +3 damage with a one handed weapon.Recitation - from DotF - acts as prayer (luck bonus) but gives followers of your faith (including yourself) a +3 and allies a +2.  If you don't care about your allies just go with divine favor which is only a 1st level spell and will net you the same bonus.Shield of faith I think gives you a +3 deflection IIRC (at level 10 +2 and then +1/6 levels rounded down).  Personally, I would just go with Protection from Evil.  For one point of defecletion bonus less you get a host of other benefits.  Also, you could go with magic circle if you are concerned for your party.  However, the magic circle is limited.  Personally I would rather buff everyone individually with PfE, which is in fact what I am doing currently - we are about to face Hedrak.  Alternatively you can summon a lantern archon.  Lantern archons I have found are best used for their MCaE and then casting aid on everyone.  Presuming you use bless or aid, that is another +1 (of the morale type)at 10th level:BAB - 10 (+3 from DM)Str - base + 14 (+6 enhancement, +8 size)AB - +10 (BAB) +7+base (str-DM, RM) +3 (luck-recitation) -1 (size-RM) +1 (morale-aid or bless) +2 (weapon enhancement - GMW) = +22Damage - increase base size - 2d6 (if using a 1d8 weapon) +2 (weapon enhancement-GMW) +7+base (str-DM,RM) +3 (luck, recitation) = 2d6+12AC - base (ought to be 21 for full plate, +1 dex, and heavy shield) +4 NA from RM -1 size +2 deflection (PfE), effective +2 from penalty from recitation to enemies +4 enhancement (from MV on shield and armor) = 32HP - +20 from RM +14 from bless (if cast by you) with DR5/evilSAves +3 luck from recitation +2 from protection from evil +2 For from RM, +2 will from Owl's WisAll in all you are looking at a +22 to hit (variable with your initial str), 2d6+12 dmg a hit, an AC around 32, 79 average HP's (variable with your initial con), and a minimum of +14 in your good saves and +8 in your bad save.  You have DR 5/evil are immune to mind controlling spells, immune to death magic with death ward and if choose your domains and feats wisely can look to get true strike on your attack with a full power attack after a charge for even more cleric goodness.My recommendations on feats:  Power Attack, Divine Might (and start with high wis and chr rather than str and con), Combat Reflexes for the increased threat range.  Also, IDHMBWM, but I believe certain deities have reach weapons as their favored weapons.You will have used the following spells1st - protection from evil2nd - aid, owl's wisdom3rd - magic vestment, magic vestment4th - death ward, divine might, recitation, greater magic weapon5th - righteous mightYou have a host of 1st through 3rd level slots leftover.  I prefer silence to cast on myself or another fighter to handle spell casters, entropic shield to reduce the effect of ray attacks, and resist elements to absorb some dmg from breath weapons and mage spells.  Don't forget to prepare at least one dispel magic.If you gain access to true strike, I would take quicken just so that you can cast the spell and attack the same round.  You should be able to get your wis up to 20 (possibly with an item negating owl's wis) so that you can get the bonus 5th level slot.  Another interesting 5th level spell is divine agility.  presuming it would follow the changes in 3.5 it would give you a +6 dex bonus, the Spring Attack feat, and the base ref save of a rogue, converting your ref save ironically into your best save at +16 (varying by base dex assuming at least 12 dex).  Combined with those resist element spells you will pretty much be immune to elemental attacks.  The spring attack would virtual feat would mean that you didn't even need quicken as you could now spring attack in and out to attack after casting the spell.  Also, I am pretty sure you can get haste in FRCS and simply cast, move, attack, move in that sequence with a wand of true strike.  A good 750 gp wand of true strike should be easy enough at 10th level.  Hell, take the feat craft wand, and generate wands of cure light wounds, and true strike, and protection from evils for your party.  If you go with spring attacking make sure to either get access to expeditious retreat or get yourself some boots of springing and striding - even at the updated cost (IIRC somewhere around 6kgp) they should be well within your budget.Of course, with any combat cleric build, all of this requires buffing time.  You can use sanctuary if that is your fancy, quicken and persistent are nice, but you won't really get to use them until later.  Personally, I go with just knowing about the battle ahead of time.  Have your rogue, ranger, or monk, wizard, or sorcerer scout ahead.  Alternatively, use chain of eyes (also in DotF) and then scry.I forgot, a couple other good spells - invisibility purge and or true seeing.Ok, I'm done.God that's just sick.</blockquote>

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