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<blockquote data-quote="Bulak" data-source="post: 6810772" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>The XP threshold is for all characters added together. So if your XP total is correct: 20975 / 8 = ~2622XP per character. Which is still very high - but not nearly <em>that</em> rediculous.</p><p></p><p>However, I would say a summoned monster is part of the CR of whatever summoned it <em>if it got summoned during the encounter</em>. Even this CR 8 creature capable of summoning a CR 10 one seems to make sense this way at first glance: there's only a 30% chance of success, and the demon disappears when the priestess dies. Whether or not you use the variant demon summoning rules also makes a difference. Because if you do, the yochlol can't use its ability to summon another yochlol, which it doesn't even have if you don't use that rule.</p><p>If my assumption is correct, the total XP per character would then add up to 1528. Which is still pretty high for a level 5 party, and still a 'deadly' encounter for a level 6 party. What happened fits with the 'deadly' description in the DMG, though.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think it's nearly as far off as you think.</p><p>Please give a more straightforward example without anything getting summoned. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bulak, post: 6810772, member: 8735"] The XP threshold is for all characters added together. So if your XP total is correct: 20975 / 8 = ~2622XP per character. Which is still very high - but not nearly [i]that[/i] rediculous. However, I would say a summoned monster is part of the CR of whatever summoned it [i]if it got summoned during the encounter[/i]. Even this CR 8 creature capable of summoning a CR 10 one seems to make sense this way at first glance: there's only a 30% chance of success, and the demon disappears when the priestess dies. Whether or not you use the variant demon summoning rules also makes a difference. Because if you do, the yochlol can't use its ability to summon another yochlol, which it doesn't even have if you don't use that rule. If my assumption is correct, the total XP per character would then add up to 1528. Which is still pretty high for a level 5 party, and still a 'deadly' encounter for a level 6 party. What happened fits with the 'deadly' description in the DMG, though. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think it's nearly as far off as you think. Please give a more straightforward example without anything getting summoned. B-) [/QUOTE]
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