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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 8171368" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>Appreciate it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>To give everyone the full details of what I'm doing and perhaps it will spawn it's own valuable discussions;</p><p>At the end of Sleeping Dragon's Wake (part of Beyond Icespire adventures) there is a scene [SPOILER="Sleeping Dragon's Wake and Divine Contention"]were the ghost of Ebondeath (a legendary black dragon on the verge of becoming a dracolich) posses the body of the ancient green dragon Gnawbones to later continue being a key adversary (and gaining in power).</p><p></p><p>Conceptually it's great. How its written is lame. The party returns from a quest for Gnawbones and while talking to her Ebondeath shows up, possesses Gnawbones and flies away. No player agency, nothing they can do to impact what happens. Then later they hunt down Ebondeath and kill the body, then they hunt him down and kill his spirit (not much more than the stats of a ghost!).[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>What I'm planning;</p><p>[SPOILER="Sleeping Dragon's Wake and Divine Contention"]When Ebondeath (ED) shows up to possess Gnawbones (GB), BD will be able to use her legendary resistances to keep ED to possess her for at least 3 turns. During those turns, I want the party to be able to intervene and/or have the chance to effect the outcome. (Hence the discussions about attacking ethereal creatures). The party has magic items and lots of magic missiles, so incorporeal really won't add much hinderance to them attacking EB if he is not ethereal. <em>Advice on designing this encounter would be welcome. </em></p><p></p><p>If the party 'wins' it will be to drive EB off before he takes control of GB. If driven off, he will probably possess one of the less powerful black dragons from the Mere of Deadmen (that is detailed in previous lore, not current adventures). This impacts the party when they fight the Battle of Leilon, do they have to defeat an ancient green dragon version of EB, or an adult black dragon. </p><p></p><p>Later, During Divine Contention and after the battle of Leilon, the party hunts down ED to kill him for good. Again, good concepts, lousy execution as ED is about a CR 7 ghost and is supposed to be fought solo as the BBEG versus a party of level ~11. Here I plan to introduce something like a lich's phylactery. And, inspired by Harry Potter, perhaps ED actually has multiple phylacteries (hence while he's been around for sooo long).[/SPOILER] Again, ethereal and incorporeal will need to factored into this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 8171368, member: 6804070"] Appreciate it :) To give everyone the full details of what I'm doing and perhaps it will spawn it's own valuable discussions; At the end of Sleeping Dragon's Wake (part of Beyond Icespire adventures) there is a scene [SPOILER="Sleeping Dragon's Wake and Divine Contention"]were the ghost of Ebondeath (a legendary black dragon on the verge of becoming a dracolich) posses the body of the ancient green dragon Gnawbones to later continue being a key adversary (and gaining in power). Conceptually it's great. How its written is lame. The party returns from a quest for Gnawbones and while talking to her Ebondeath shows up, possesses Gnawbones and flies away. No player agency, nothing they can do to impact what happens. Then later they hunt down Ebondeath and kill the body, then they hunt him down and kill his spirit (not much more than the stats of a ghost!).[/SPOILER] What I'm planning; [SPOILER="Sleeping Dragon's Wake and Divine Contention"]When Ebondeath (ED) shows up to possess Gnawbones (GB), BD will be able to use her legendary resistances to keep ED to possess her for at least 3 turns. During those turns, I want the party to be able to intervene and/or have the chance to effect the outcome. (Hence the discussions about attacking ethereal creatures). The party has magic items and lots of magic missiles, so incorporeal really won't add much hinderance to them attacking EB if he is not ethereal. [I]Advice on designing this encounter would be welcome. [/I] If the party 'wins' it will be to drive EB off before he takes control of GB. If driven off, he will probably possess one of the less powerful black dragons from the Mere of Deadmen (that is detailed in previous lore, not current adventures). This impacts the party when they fight the Battle of Leilon, do they have to defeat an ancient green dragon version of EB, or an adult black dragon. Later, During Divine Contention and after the battle of Leilon, the party hunts down ED to kill him for good. Again, good concepts, lousy execution as ED is about a CR 7 ghost and is supposed to be fought solo as the BBEG versus a party of level ~11. Here I plan to introduce something like a lich's phylactery. And, inspired by Harry Potter, perhaps ED actually has multiple phylacteries (hence while he's been around for sooo long).[/SPOILER] Again, ethereal and incorporeal will need to factored into this. [/QUOTE]
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