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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2433439" data-attributes="member: 23094">I disagree, of course.&quot;When fighting this way&quot; clearly refers to using the full attack action to make additional attacks above and beyond those normally allowed by your BAB by wielding an off-hand weapon.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&quot;When fighting this way&quot; ends as soon as your full attack action does.There are, basically, two possible reading of &quot;when fighting this way&quot;:1.&nbsp; Whenever you wield two weapons (generally by having them in-hand)2.&nbsp; Whenever you make use of the TWF rulesTo determine whether you believe in #1 or #2, ask yourself the following question:If a swashbuckler-type fighter (with all appropriate feats) has a rapier in one hand and a dagger in the other, and he makes a standard action single attack, does he suffer a -2 penalty to that attack roll?If you answer &quot;Yes,&quot; then you believe in #1, and the penalty should absolutely apply for all AoOs.If you answer &quot;No,&quot; then you believe in #2, and the penalty should not apply - because at the time of the AoO, the character is not &quot;fighting this way&quot; (which is only possible during a full-attack action, and is therefore not possible outside of a character's turn).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2433439, member: 23094"] I disagree, of course. "When fighting this way" [b]clearly[/b] refers to using the full attack action to make additional attacks above and beyond those normally allowed by your BAB by wielding an off-hand weapon. ;) "When fighting this way" ends as soon as your full attack action does. There are, basically, two possible reading of "when fighting this way": 1. Whenever you wield two weapons (generally by having them in-hand) 2. Whenever you make use of the TWF rules To determine whether you believe in #1 or #2, ask yourself the following question: If a swashbuckler-type fighter (with all appropriate feats) has a rapier in one hand and a dagger in the other, and he makes a standard action single attack, does he suffer a -2 penalty to that attack roll? If you answer "Yes," then you believe in #1, and the penalty should absolutely apply for all AoOs. If you answer "No," then you believe in #2, and the penalty should not apply - because at the time of the AoO, the character is not "fighting this way" (which is only possible during a full-attack action, and is therefore not possible outside of a character's turn). [/QUOTE]

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