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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 844514" data-attributes="member: 319">Well... If you really want to make a hard-core combat oriented rogue, I'd reccommend going with a Dwarf with a level or two of Barbarian.You get Darkvision, which is huge for a stealth-based character, you get a bonus to CON, you have a 30' move, can boost your combat abilities when you really need it, the levels from both classes stack for Uncanny Dodge purposes, and you get a +2 to all saves vs. spells - combined with Iron Will, it'll ensure that you'll have a better chance of actually staying in combat, instead of getting Held or frightened into running away...Then, for combat effectiveness you can do one of two things: Get a large two-handed weapon and buy gloves of Ogre Strength - you can easily have 18STR that way (start with a 15, boost to 16 at 4th level...), and hit for 2d6+6 and 3d6 of sneak attack when flanking (or when charging in the first round of combat), or take Ambidex and TWF and use dual shortswords to maximize your sneak attack potential. The first option is probably better for your purposes since it's much cheaper in terms of feats and makes you a lot more effective in situations in which you can't sneak attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 844514, member: 319"] Well... If you really want to make a hard-core combat oriented rogue, I'd reccommend going with a Dwarf with a level or two of Barbarian. You get Darkvision, which is huge for a stealth-based character, you get a bonus to CON, you have a 30' move, can boost your combat abilities when you really need it, the levels from both classes stack for Uncanny Dodge purposes, and you get a +2 to all saves vs. spells - combined with Iron Will, it'll ensure that you'll have a better chance of actually [i]staying[/i] in combat, instead of getting Held or frightened into running away... Then, for combat effectiveness you can do one of two things: Get a large two-handed weapon and buy gloves of Ogre Strength - you can easily have 18STR that way (start with a 15, boost to 16 at 4th level...), and hit for 2d6+6 and 3d6 of sneak attack when flanking (or when charging in the first round of combat), or take Ambidex and TWF and use dual shortswords to maximize your sneak attack potential. The first option is probably better for your purposes since it's much cheaper in terms of feats and makes you a lot more effective in situations in which you can't sneak attack. [/QUOTE]

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