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<blockquote data-quote="Bumamgar" data-source="post: 4113785" data-attributes="member: 38648"><p>Improved Grab just means the creature can start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. Sure, the creature can take -20 on it's grapple check to keep it's dex bonus to AC and continue to threaten and attack others, but generally a -20 means the creature isn't going to have much of a chance of actually succeeding in it's grapple attempt.</p><p></p><p>I guess certain optimized monsters have such high grapple checks that they can absorb a -20 penalty and still have a reasonable chance of succeeding on grapple checks. Especially if they are going after a non-melee class who's going to have a poor grapple to begin with.</p><p></p><p>Guess maybe I just need to play these monsters a bit smarter <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I definitely didn't find anything about there being a risk of hitting your ally if you are attacking an opponent who is grappling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bumamgar, post: 4113785, member: 38648"] Improved Grab just means the creature can start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. Sure, the creature can take -20 on it's grapple check to keep it's dex bonus to AC and continue to threaten and attack others, but generally a -20 means the creature isn't going to have much of a chance of actually succeeding in it's grapple attempt. I guess certain optimized monsters have such high grapple checks that they can absorb a -20 penalty and still have a reasonable chance of succeeding on grapple checks. Especially if they are going after a non-melee class who's going to have a poor grapple to begin with. Guess maybe I just need to play these monsters a bit smarter :) I definitely didn't find anything about there being a risk of hitting your ally if you are attacking an opponent who is grappling. [/QUOTE]
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