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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 306135" data-attributes="member: 2011">No, what he said is correct, not wrong. What he said also agrees with the quote you mentioned.By “solid barrier” in that sentence, they are talking about both a solid object and 100% cover. Check the chart at the top of page 133. Total cover: example: on the other side of a solid wall.The clarification that a line of effect goes through a solid object if there is a one square foot hole explains what they mean by solid barrier. Total cover would be cover without a one square foot hole or any opening which allows less then total cover.The diagram on page 149 is a picture whose sole purpose is to illustrate what line of effect means and total cover means with regard to it, not what partial cover means.In other words, the reason that the effect extends beyond the targets in the diagram is to illustrate that if a character is between you and the point of origin, you are STILL within the line of effect of the spell.However, the diagram cannot be used as proof of whether cover applies due to characters or not.The only indication we have of that is page 133 (that I could find):“Add this bonus to Reflex saves against attacks that affect an area, such as a red dragon’s breath or a fireball.”It does not say to use a lower amount of cover for those types of attacks. If you have half cover from a missile attack at the origin point, you also have half cover from a fireball attack at the origin point. There is nothing to indicate that the degree of cover is lessened.If you have cover from a table, it applies equally to a Fireball as it does a Missile Attack. This sentence indicates this since there is not “lowering of cover level” in the sentence that gives cover bonus for area effect spells.If you have cover from a character, ditto.Btw, you'll note that I had the exact opposite opinion earlier in this thread due to that diagram. But, text in the book always takes precedence over pictures. IMO.</blockquote>

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