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Message: <blockquote data-quote="godfear" data-source="post: 306667" data-attributes="member: 1482">Wow, and here I thought this was going to wind up being another one of my "Get off the boards and read the books, you Peon!" posts... In the end, it appears that some doubts linger.I'm of the opinion that yea, they should probably get the +2 bonus to saves for the cover, but as a DM, I'm really too lazy to try to remember to implement it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> My players and I discussed this before I brought it to the boards to see what you all think, and they were pretty much in the same boat as me.This all spawned from Wulf's Story Hour, and being denied even a Ref save in a grapple with a huge creature which was between the character and the origin of the spell. Got the wheels turning about creatures, cover, etc... Anyway, thanks for the ideas, folks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>