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<blockquote data-quote="Griffonslayer" data-source="post: 6435871" data-attributes="member: 96811">As far as skills are concerned, yes. That was my point. But my counter is that by lvl 20 what does most of it actually matter? Most of it can be done better/quicker by a wizard with his spells. What lvl 20 character can't fly, by some means or another, relatively easily? And while I agree that I have three attacks, and I will have a good Strength, I'm not sure that those two factors qualify as &quot;substantially better&quot; than a fighter. I don't have a fighter's feats, base attack bonus or weapon training. IF I hit, I can potentially do some damage, but Shadow Form cuts the damage in half. I do understand your point however. With all the power inherent in the spell casting classes, and not being drawn to that aspect of the game (I love the skill monkey concept), I have always felt a little jilted. This was one of my attempts to make the rogue a little more deadly and less replaceable by a spell caster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Griffonslayer, post: 6435871, member: 96811"] As far as skills are concerned, yes. That was my point. But my counter is that by lvl 20 what does most of it actually matter? Most of it can be done better/quicker by a wizard with his spells. What lvl 20 character can't fly, by some means or another, relatively easily? And while I agree that I have three attacks, and I will have a good Strength, I'm not sure that those two factors qualify as "substantially better" than a fighter. I don't have a fighter's feats, base attack bonus or weapon training. IF I hit, I can potentially do some damage, but Shadow Form cuts the damage in half. I do understand your point however. With all the power inherent in the spell casting classes, and not being drawn to that aspect of the game (I love the skill monkey concept), I have always felt a little jilted. This was one of my attempts to make the rogue a little more deadly and less replaceable by a spell caster. [/QUOTE]

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