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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6581524" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Well, except that:</p><p></p><p>No sorcerer only spells so far...</p><p></p><p></p><p>And why do any of these spells not make sense for a sorcerer? (this is the list of wizard spells not allowed to sorcerers)</p><p></p><p>Protection from Evil and Good -????</p><p>Tasha's Hideous Laughter - can't be funny?</p><p>Longstrider - can't be fast?</p><p>Tenser's Floating Disk - why can't I do this? </p><p>Illusory Script - too scholarly?</p><p>Identify - you mean I can't provide this utility to the group?</p><p>Grease - Really?</p><p>Unseen Servant - No floating disk/servant fly everywhere combo? </p><p>Find Familiar - no pet raven? why no pet raven?</p><p>Alarm - why can't I be alert</p><p>Locate Object </p><p>Magic Mouth </p><p>Magic Weapon - NO buffing allies? </p><p>Arcane Lock - No way to seal doors?</p><p>Melf's Acid Arrow - Can use melf minute meteors but Acid arrow is somehow off limits?</p><p>Rope Trick - A versatile multi-use spell I cannot use</p><p>Ray of Enfeeblement - I don't get why this isn't allowed</p><p>Gentle Repose - ok very situational </p><p>Flaming Sphere - which is the pretext for this one?</p><p>Nystul's Magic Aura - magic inccarnate but cannot disguise auras</p><p>Continual Flame - again</p><p>Phantom Steed - why no phantom ponies?</p><p>Nondetection - why can't I hide</p><p>Glyph of Warding - scholarly flavor?</p><p>Bestow Curse - why can't I curse people?</p><p>Remove Curse - why can't i uncurse people?</p><p>Feign Death - maybe too situational?</p><p>Sending - no long distance calls for you?</p><p>Magic Circle - maybe too ritualistic</p><p>Animate Dead - no toying with death? I thought magic was fun</p><p>Vampiric Touch - tell me why this makes no sense</p><p>Leomund's Tiny Hut - no way to get any refuge?</p><p>Leomund's Secret Chest -ok, this one is expensive</p><p>Locate Creature - no divinations?</p><p>Stone Shape - no earth bending for you?</p><p>Arcane Eye </p><p>Evard's Black Tentacles </p><p>Fabricate - why can't I be a magical artisan?</p><p>Conjure Minor Elementals - again no pets ?</p><p>Control Water - no water bending?</p><p>Fire Shield - tell me why this is off limits</p><p>Phantasmal Killer - no toying with people's mind?</p><p>Otiluke's Resilient Sphere </p><p>Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum </p><p>Hallucinatory Terrain </p><p>Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound - no pets?</p><p>Rary's Telepathic Bond </p><p>Contact Other Plane - again, no long distance calls?</p><p>Modify Memory </p><p>Conjure Elemental </p><p>Wall of Force </p><p>Scrying - no divinations?</p><p>Geas - Again, no cursing people?</p><p>Legend Lore - ok this one looks not sorcerous</p><p>Dream - no dreamwalking</p><p>Passwall - no moving walls</p><p>Bigby's Hand -??? </p><p>Mislead </p><p>Planar Binding - I'm a magical creature but can't do deals with other magical creatures?</p><p>Programmed Illusion - no high level illusions? </p><p>Drawmij's Instant Summons - expensive as heck, granted</p><p>Flesh to Stone - why can't I stone people?</p><p>Contingency </p><p>Otto's Irresistible Dance </p><p>Magic Jar </p><p>Otiluke's Freezing Sphere - another one</p><p>Create Undead </p><p>Wall of Ice </p><p>Guards and Wards </p><p>Sequester </p><p>Mordenkainen's Sword </p><p>Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion - ok, fairly speciffic, but why can't I even get a nice place to crash?</p><p>Simulacrum </p><p>Forcecage - and this is off-limits why?</p><p>Symbol </p><p>Mirage Arcane </p><p>Project Image </p><p>Maze </p><p>Antipathy/Sympathy </p><p>Clone - yeah, less broken if only the wizard can do it</p><p>Control Weather </p><p>Antimagic Field - why?</p><p>Feeblemind </p><p>Mind Blank </p><p>Demiplane - I can't even summon a house and wizards get their own personal dimension?</p><p>Telepathy - Why is this not sorcerous?</p><p>True Polymorph </p><p>Foresight </p><p>Prismatic Wall </p><p>Astral Projection </p><p>Imprisonment - again why can't I curse people?</p><p>Weird </p><p>Shapechange - dragon blooded but can't turn into a dragon?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6581524, member: 6689464"] Well, except that: No sorcerer only spells so far... And why do any of these spells not make sense for a sorcerer? (this is the list of wizard spells not allowed to sorcerers) Protection from Evil and Good -???? Tasha's Hideous Laughter - can't be funny? Longstrider - can't be fast? Tenser's Floating Disk - why can't I do this? Illusory Script - too scholarly? Identify - you mean I can't provide this utility to the group? Grease - Really? Unseen Servant - No floating disk/servant fly everywhere combo? Find Familiar - no pet raven? why no pet raven? Alarm - why can't I be alert Locate Object Magic Mouth Magic Weapon - NO buffing allies? Arcane Lock - No way to seal doors? Melf's Acid Arrow - Can use melf minute meteors but Acid arrow is somehow off limits? Rope Trick - A versatile multi-use spell I cannot use Ray of Enfeeblement - I don't get why this isn't allowed Gentle Repose - ok very situational Flaming Sphere - which is the pretext for this one? Nystul's Magic Aura - magic inccarnate but cannot disguise auras Continual Flame - again Phantom Steed - why no phantom ponies? Nondetection - why can't I hide Glyph of Warding - scholarly flavor? Bestow Curse - why can't I curse people? Remove Curse - why can't i uncurse people? Feign Death - maybe too situational? Sending - no long distance calls for you? Magic Circle - maybe too ritualistic Animate Dead - no toying with death? I thought magic was fun Vampiric Touch - tell me why this makes no sense Leomund's Tiny Hut - no way to get any refuge? Leomund's Secret Chest -ok, this one is expensive Locate Creature - no divinations? Stone Shape - no earth bending for you? Arcane Eye Evard's Black Tentacles Fabricate - why can't I be a magical artisan? Conjure Minor Elementals - again no pets ? Control Water - no water bending? Fire Shield - tell me why this is off limits Phantasmal Killer - no toying with people's mind? Otiluke's Resilient Sphere Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum Hallucinatory Terrain Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound - no pets? Rary's Telepathic Bond Contact Other Plane - again, no long distance calls? Modify Memory Conjure Elemental Wall of Force Scrying - no divinations? Geas - Again, no cursing people? Legend Lore - ok this one looks not sorcerous Dream - no dreamwalking Passwall - no moving walls Bigby's Hand -??? Mislead Planar Binding - I'm a magical creature but can't do deals with other magical creatures? Programmed Illusion - no high level illusions? Drawmij's Instant Summons - expensive as heck, granted Flesh to Stone - why can't I stone people? Contingency Otto's Irresistible Dance Magic Jar Otiluke's Freezing Sphere - another one Create Undead Wall of Ice Guards and Wards Sequester Mordenkainen's Sword Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion - ok, fairly speciffic, but why can't I even get a nice place to crash? Simulacrum Forcecage - and this is off-limits why? Symbol Mirage Arcane Project Image Maze Antipathy/Sympathy Clone - yeah, less broken if only the wizard can do it Control Weather Antimagic Field - why? Feeblemind Mind Blank Demiplane - I can't even summon a house and wizards get their own personal dimension? Telepathy - Why is this not sorcerous? True Polymorph Foresight Prismatic Wall Astral Projection Imprisonment - again why can't I curse people? Weird Shapechange - dragon blooded but can't turn into a dragon? [/QUOTE]
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