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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEP" data-source="post: 5873070" data-attributes="member: 70847">I used to like the idea of at-wills with Vancian magic. Then it hit me, I like lower magic games, and isn't an at-will essentially the same as firing a crossbow or throwing daggers/darts? Most players I see around my area always want an extra burning hands/magic missile. So really, isn't that the same as using weapons, or throwing oil. I personally run low magic, low combat games, and people get by with their one spell slot in B/X or LL when I run. I see no problem at all with having Vancian magic stay the same. It worked from the 70's through to 2008, so why change it. To me it is part of D&D. People need to learn resource management, and not to blow your spell on the first enemy you see. Throw oil and holy water if undead, use retainers, etc.</blockquote>