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Come again - you can't shoot bows in melee while in melee?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 3094281" data-attributes="member: 1457"><p>This DM is wrong on so many points, but no one's commented on this one yet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>AoO activations have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the target threatens. All that matters is whether the person potentially able to make the AoO threatens. </p><p></p><p>In the example where you have a bow and you're adjacent to an opponent and you decide to try to shoot (shoot him or anyone else), the only thing that matters is whether the *opponent* threatens you. </p><p></p><p>Whether or not you threaten your opponent has no bearing on whether or not your opponent gets an AoO. It does not matter. At all.</p><p></p><p>Also, the definition of "in melee" is one opponent threatening another with a melee weapon. If your opponent is unarmed and doesn't threaten you (no Unarmed Combat feat, no armor spikes, no natural weapons, etc.), and you don't threaten him, then you're not in melee. Even though you're adjacent and don't like each other.</p><p></p><p>If your buddy across the room is adjacent to an opponent, and neither threatens the other, then they aren't in melee--even though they're adjacent to each other and they're enemies. Shoot at the opponent all you want; there's no penalty*.</p><p></p><p>The whole concept of "threaten" is pretty fundamental to D&D 3.5. Your DM should really take the time to read the combat rules in a single sitting, especially the paragraph dealing with attacks of opportunity. </p><p></p><p>-z </p><p></p><p>* Potentially, there may be cover penalties, range penalties, etc. But there's no penalty for shooting a foe standing next to a friend unless one threatens the other/is in melee with the other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zaruthustran, post: 3094281, member: 1457"] This DM is wrong on so many points, but no one's commented on this one yet. :) AoO activations have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the target threatens. All that matters is whether the person potentially able to make the AoO threatens. In the example where you have a bow and you're adjacent to an opponent and you decide to try to shoot (shoot him or anyone else), the only thing that matters is whether the *opponent* threatens you. Whether or not you threaten your opponent has no bearing on whether or not your opponent gets an AoO. It does not matter. At all. Also, the definition of "in melee" is one opponent threatening another with a melee weapon. If your opponent is unarmed and doesn't threaten you (no Unarmed Combat feat, no armor spikes, no natural weapons, etc.), and you don't threaten him, then you're not in melee. Even though you're adjacent and don't like each other. If your buddy across the room is adjacent to an opponent, and neither threatens the other, then they aren't in melee--even though they're adjacent to each other and they're enemies. Shoot at the opponent all you want; there's no penalty*. The whole concept of "threaten" is pretty fundamental to D&D 3.5. Your DM should really take the time to read the combat rules in a single sitting, especially the paragraph dealing with attacks of opportunity. -z * Potentially, there may be cover penalties, range penalties, etc. But there's no penalty for shooting a foe standing next to a friend unless one threatens the other/is in melee with the other. [/QUOTE]
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