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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skallgrim" data-source="post: 5150255" data-attributes="member: 79271">So, wait. I'm confused.  If the forced movement is horizontal only, as RAW, then:You can't push a character up a ramp, or pull them up a ramp, since the horizontal movement would necessitate moving into an square occupied by a solid object (the stairs or ramp itself)?You could pull a character down a ramp, or push them down a flight of stairs, but instead of allowing the push or pull to move them safely down the stairs, it would require them to move directly forwards into thin air above the surface of the Stairs/ramp and then take falling damage?I suppose that would be RAW, but it seems really, really odd that there is absolutely no way, via RAW, to push, pull, or slide anyone to a square that is elevated above their current square, and even odder that RAW would require that all forced movment to a lower level would require a chance to catch oneself (and fall prone) or take falling damage.I mean, I guess it is consistent with the rules that a Thunderwave from a wizard at the top of a gently sloping hill doesn't push his enemies down the gentle slope, but instead blasts them directly away from him in midair, where they then fall and take more damage. It just seems really odd from a game perspective, to me.</blockquote>