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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 6399528" data-attributes="member: 5038">4e players and DMs, I can use your help. Fourth edition has a lot that I like through Heroic Tier.&nbsp; However, I never ran it, partially because paragon tier and Epic would not get used and, partially, because of a few issues. However, I am thinking of giving it a try for Heroic tier since one of my players owns the core books.&nbsp;One of my Heroic tier issues involves Come and Get It and Warrrior's Urging even after the revision. I am one of those people that has a disconnect with these powers.&nbsp; I always wanted the pull as Cha or Int vs Will to represent trickery or cunning to lure the targets followed by a secondary Str vs AC burst to attack any adjacent foes.&nbsp;&nbsp; I could use help formatting my intent by those more knowledgeable.&nbsp; I would also appreciate advice as to potential pitfalls of how I am approaching it and if the new approach might require a level changeEncounter&nbsp; Martial, WeaponStandard Action&nbsp; &nbsp; Close burst (as described in original power)Target: Each enemy you can see in the burstAttack Cha or Int vs. WillEffect: You pull the target up the number of squares as described in the original power. If any enemy are adjacent to you after the pull, make a secondary attack.Secondary Attack (Martial, Weapon)Attack: Str vs ACClose Burst: 1Secondary Target: Each enemy in burstHit: damage as&nbsp; described in the original poweredit: oops! Thought i posted this to house rules.&nbsp; Mods if it needs to go there, please move it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 6399528, member: 5038"] 4e players and DMs, I can use your help. Fourth edition has a lot that I like through Heroic Tier. However, I never ran it, partially because paragon tier and Epic would not get used and, partially, because of a few issues. However, I am thinking of giving it a try for Heroic tier since one of my players owns the core books. One of my Heroic tier issues involves Come and Get It and Warrrior's Urging even after the revision. I am one of those people that has a disconnect with these powers. I always wanted the pull as Cha or Int vs Will to represent trickery or cunning to lure the targets followed by a secondary Str vs AC burst to attack any adjacent foes. I could use help formatting my intent by those more knowledgeable. I would also appreciate advice as to potential pitfalls of how I am approaching it and if the new approach might require a level change Encounter Martial, Weapon Standard Action Close burst (as described in original power) Target: Each enemy you can see in the burst Attack Cha or Int vs. Will Effect: You pull the target up the number of squares as described in the original power. If any enemy are adjacent to you after the pull, make a secondary attack. Secondary Attack (Martial, Weapon) Attack: Str vs AC Close Burst: 1 Secondary Target: Each enemy in burst Hit: damage as described in the original power edit: oops! Thought i posted this to house rules. Mods if it needs to go there, please move it. [/QUOTE]

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