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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9310014" data-attributes="member: 177">So, we have a few tidbits here that complicate matters...1) Sample size.&nbsp; You start out by limiting to &quot;young adult human characters&quot;.&nbsp; I can think of several good reasons to limit consideration in that way, but... how many pieces of D&amp;D art actually pass that filter to begin with?This especially applies when you speak about specific traits - like, say, capillary hemangiomas.&nbsp; Hemangiomas are seen most in infants, and people 30 to 50 years old.&nbsp; They are notably less common in &quot;young adults&quot;.&nbsp; So, how many should you see?The question is a bit better in the more generalized form - how many bits of the art are not conventionally attractive?2) This is hard because of an empirical truth - however much we say we want to see diversity in our art, we still subconsciously respond more positively to &quot;attractive&quot; figures, so those attractive figures will tend to sell more books.When we ask for diversity and inclusion, I think we are asking for diverse people and inclusion of people of various types, not diverse esthetics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9310014, member: 177"] So, we have a few tidbits here that complicate matters... 1) Sample size. You start out by limiting to "young adult human characters". I can think of several good reasons to limit consideration in that way, but... how many pieces of D&D art actually pass that filter to begin with? This especially applies when you speak about specific traits - like, say, capillary hemangiomas. Hemangiomas are seen most in infants, and people 30 to 50 years old. They are notably less common in "young adults". So, how many [I]should[/I] you see? The question is a bit better in the more generalized form - how many bits of the art are not conventionally attractive? 2) This is hard because of an empirical truth - however much we say we want to see diversity in our art, we still subconsciously respond more positively to "attractive" figures, so those attractive figures will tend to sell more books. When we ask for diversity and inclusion, I think we are asking for diverse [I]people[/I] and inclusion of [I]people[/I] of various types, not diverse esthetics. [/QUOTE]

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