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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9311423" data-attributes="member: 7035894"><p>I've been collecting and painting miniatures for decades, and I've got my share of scantily clad ones. And those are fine for my home games, where we are all older, we know each other well, and we can get a kick out of loincloth or bikini-clad warriors while appreciating the old school context. Those miniatures don't get used a ton, and nobody picks them for their character because, let's face it, they look kinda dumb, but when I bring them out as NPCs it always gets a few chuckles and woohoos.</p><p></p><p>I would not dream of taking them to school and using them in games with students, let alone suggesting a student use them for their character. Doing so would be wildly inappropriate and show serious lack of judgment. We can all agree on that, right? Like, I think we can safely assume that anyone here would think it pretty gross if a teacher suggested that your daughter use a chainmail bikini-clad miniature for her character.</p><p></p><p>WotC is marketing to teenagers and young adults, in particular. They are also marketing to old grognards like us, but we're not a priority. Nor should we be. They've got to pay attention to what is appropriate for all audiences and ages, and their art has to reflect that. Them selling teenagers books full of problematic art would be no better than me taking those miniatures in to school. If you have a problem with that, you're just being stubborn, and I think you know that if you were in WotC's shoes, you'd do the same as them. Times change. Standards change. Contexts change. Responsible companies change with them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 9311423, member: 7035894"] I've been collecting and painting miniatures for decades, and I've got my share of scantily clad ones. And those are fine for my home games, where we are all older, we know each other well, and we can get a kick out of loincloth or bikini-clad warriors while appreciating the old school context. Those miniatures don't get used a ton, and nobody picks them for their character because, let's face it, they look kinda dumb, but when I bring them out as NPCs it always gets a few chuckles and woohoos. I would not dream of taking them to school and using them in games with students, let alone suggesting a student use them for their character. Doing so would be wildly inappropriate and show serious lack of judgment. We can all agree on that, right? Like, I think we can safely assume that anyone here would think it pretty gross if a teacher suggested that your daughter use a chainmail bikini-clad miniature for her character. WotC is marketing to teenagers and young adults, in particular. They are also marketing to old grognards like us, but we're not a priority. Nor should we be. They've got to pay attention to what is appropriate for all audiences and ages, and their art has to reflect that. Them selling teenagers books full of problematic art would be no better than me taking those miniatures in to school. If you have a problem with that, you're just being stubborn, and I think you know that if you were in WotC's shoes, you'd do the same as them. Times change. Standards change. Contexts change. Responsible companies change with them. [/QUOTE]
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