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<blockquote data-quote="LesserThan" data-source="post: 9313287" data-attributes="member: 7045327">I just cut it down to this, otherwise a nightmare to try to reply scrolling around the typing area.You would not have a slime in the humanoid shape. Vampires are humans, or were, so they would have 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs. Slime creatures never did, nor do they have bones. There is no reason for non humanoids to have human body &quot;problems&quot;, as they dont have human style bodies.Half elf or orc, silly and pointless. I stand by that.We would have to go into semantics and pedantry over humanoid and demihuman meanings to go further, and neither really has to do with the art and &quot;beauty&quot; stat....2 points you numbered.1. Realism, fantasy game, not real. Who cares?2. Representation, fantasy game, not real. Who cares?I am not interested in RPPUNDIT simulation games. If I wanted &quot;real&quot;, I could do that Society re-eanctors medieval fighting stuff instead of playing a tabletop game where my fat ass in sitting comfortably in my wheelchair. To repeat what I said earlier to Charlequin, I told her, I have zero interest in &quot;being represented&quot; or FORCED to have my character in a wheelchair in game. If anyone offered me a wheelchair character in a game I would be grandma unfriendly words well beyond being offended by it.I want characters and art that depict the FANTASY world, not this one.Things burn down when Bessie kicks over the lamp, I better not see any firetrucks sirens blaring coming to put the barn out.People seem to be blurring the line of fantasy and reality a bit too much in modern escapism.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LesserThan, post: 9313287, member: 7045327"] I just cut it down to this, otherwise a nightmare to try to reply scrolling around the typing area. You would not have a slime in the humanoid shape. Vampires are humans, or were, so they would have 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs. Slime creatures never did, nor do they have bones. There is no reason for non humanoids to have human body "problems", as they dont have human style bodies. Half elf or orc, silly and pointless. I stand by that. We would have to go into semantics and pedantry over humanoid and demihuman meanings to go further, and neither really has to do with the art and "beauty" stat. ...2 points you numbered. 1. Realism, fantasy game, not real. Who cares? 2. Representation, fantasy game, not real. Who cares? I am not interested in RPPUNDIT simulation games. If I wanted "real", I could do that Society re-eanctors medieval fighting stuff instead of playing a tabletop game where my fat ass in sitting comfortably in my wheelchair. To repeat what I said earlier to Charlequin, I told her, I have zero interest in "being represented" or FORCED to have my character in a wheelchair in game. If anyone offered me a wheelchair character in a game I would be grandma unfriendly words well beyond being offended by it. I want characters and art that depict the FANTASY world, not this one. Things burn down when Bessie kicks over the lamp, I better not see any firetrucks sirens blaring coming to put the barn out. People seem to be blurring the line of fantasy and reality a bit too much in modern escapism. [/QUOTE]

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