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<blockquote data-quote="chatdemon" data-source="post: 242815" data-attributes="member: 228">Preach on, my brother!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Seriously though, The problem I have with the comeliness score is that it can potentially destroy a valid character concept.Say Bob wants to play Regdar, and pictures him as the chiseled, good looking action hero type. While a low charisma can be explained away (You've got chronic bad breath, you have the manners of a drunken umber hulk, your people don't believe in bathing, etc), there is really no getting around 'look dude, your character is butt ugly, deal with it.Or Sue wants to play Lidda as the shy ugly duckling who has learned to live in the shadows and avoid being noticed or use people's negative reactions to her advantage. Again, a high charisma can be hidden through role playing (My character dresses in rags and smells like the stables and refuses to use her utensils while dining with the duke) but being stunningly beautiful is hard to hide, and since 1E had rules in place to have good looks positively influence reactions toward you, it could have an adverse effect on Sue's plans.And we won't even get into the &quot;just how high does my comeliness have to be before other men want to do me?&quot; question a friend of mine posed back when we played 1e, with the comeliness rules.On top of all that, the rules reflect a possibly accurate, but extremely shallow and somewhat sexist view of how people react to each other. It's fantasy, let's let charisma and role playing define how a PC is recieved by her peers, not whether or not she belongs in Playboy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="chatdemon, post: 242815, member: 228"] Preach on, my brother! :D Seriously though, The problem I have with the comeliness score is that it can potentially destroy a valid character concept. Say Bob wants to play Regdar, and pictures him as the chiseled, good looking action hero type. While a low charisma can be explained away (You've got chronic bad breath, you have the manners of a drunken umber hulk, your people don't believe in bathing, etc), there is really no getting around 'look dude, your character is butt ugly, deal with it. Or Sue wants to play Lidda as the shy ugly duckling who has learned to live in the shadows and avoid being noticed or use people's negative reactions to her advantage. Again, a high charisma can be hidden through role playing (My character dresses in rags and smells like the stables and refuses to use her utensils while dining with the duke) but being stunningly beautiful is hard to hide, and since 1E had rules in place to have good looks positively influence reactions toward you, it could have an adverse effect on Sue's plans. And we won't even get into the "just how high does my comeliness have to be before other [i]men[/i] want to do me?" question a friend of mine posed back when we played 1e, with the comeliness rules. On top of all that, the rules reflect a possibly accurate, but extremely shallow and somewhat sexist view of how people react to each other. It's fantasy, let's let charisma and role playing define how a PC is recieved by her peers, not whether or not she belongs in Playboy. [/QUOTE]

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