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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6133446" data-attributes="member: 48965">I agree with you to a certain point. There is a difference between 3.x/PF and 4e when it comes to certain actions.  In 3e anyone can pick up two weapons and fight and they are well aware of the disadvantage of doing such unless one has the feats to improve it... in other words 3e says you can try this but you won't be that great at it...  4e on the other hand has no general rule for 2-weapon fighting, or tripping or other actions and at times even contradictory ways of expressing or resolving certain actions in the case of feats vs. powers which, IMO, suggests in an even stronger way that you can't even attempt this action without power "X" or feat "Y".</blockquote>